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Good Day To You:
I like to offer a tip, its really a penny stock, but so far, I’ve been happy with Timmins Gold Corp.(TMGOF) For folk that don’t earn alot of cash, Timmins Gold Corp doubled my investment so far. For what its worth, and thanks for the opportunity to weight in, Marilyn
The underlying problems that caused the recession have not been corrected. Uncle Sam is charging up a storm on his credit cards at an unsustainable pace. The US dollar will continue to erode. When the day of reckoning comes (and it will) what will happen to stock prices? Will they escalate in value because it will take more (devalued) dollars to buy stock, or will the stock prices suffer like housing prices have? HELP!
I am convinced that everything but the dollar will jump in 2010. The governments outlay of money will continue, and we are in prime position to see astronomical profits. With the midterm elections coming up, and the party in power’s desire to hang onto that power will coerce the fed to “just keep printing baby!” I foresee banks, investment houses, oil and natural resource companies, utilities, technology, metals just continue their relentless ascent to record breaking prices.
The piper will be paid, but not in 2010.
Beware of the devil in late 2011, and maybe the mayans were correct about 2012 afterall.
What do you see happening if Iran or North Korea lob a weapon into some other country in their region of the world? Shouldn’t we have some insurance for that event? Oil? Gold? What would happen to the U.S. stock market? Other markets?
Thanks
Martin, I believe that the market will start to move down last quarter next year quite rapidely after raising to 11k by spring… Oil and commodities will enjoy modest gains however in the U.S. thedollare is going to be down and gold will be up..l. it appears the powers to be (some greater than Obama himself) are letting the moral fiber of this country go down with the dollar in in the name of (unfortunately) of the so called world order!!!!!!!!!
One should consider the alternative place to live if not the in America…
Our forefathers were more morally in tune striving for the good of mankind. Work ethic was here and has succumed to the “establishment”..
The Dow is about to head south in earnest… Gold is getting
ready to head south big time…oil is about as high as it will
get for a long time…Ind’ Metals are ready for a long trip
south, in fact you will see commodities in general at for
lower prices before this DIPRESSION is over !!! Sure
there will be ongoing corrections, nothing goes straight
up or down !!! I see from your blogs that the herd is out
in force going full blast up hill… I’ve seen that many times
in my 81 years… You remember our ‘ole’ buddy Joe
Granville, he said when they scream “gimme the bag
give em the bag !!!
Good Luck & God Bless
IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO INVOLVE PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THEY THINK THINGS OUT.
MANY WILL BE SURPRISED WITH YOUR ANALYSIS
TOO MANY WATCH CNBC WITH THEIR PUPPETS READING THE PROMPTOR IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES WITH NO UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SAME.
THE NEWSPAPERS ONLY PRINT THE NEWS THEY ARE TOLD TO PRINT NOT THE NEWS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO PRINT
ENOUGH SAID, HAVE A NICE DAY.
My greatest concern is that so many banks have been weakened by the housing bust of 2007 and 2008, personal savings rates continue to climb, unemployment continues to rise and we are on the verge of seeing another mortgage crisis of the same proportions as the last with the reset of the adjustable ARMs and the AltA’s. We have seen over 100 banks fail already and many more banks are in serious trouble. I don’t find this in many publication and wonder if it is being ignored or overlooked. I don’t see the present financial crisis being over until late 2012 and the going sideways for a number of years after that.
Hello, what´s your predicted oil prices for 2009?
I keep asking for the process of investing who do I talk to? I figure maybe someone will contact me.
I BELIEVE THE MARKET WLL CLOSE AT 10600 BY THE END 2009. I BELIEVE A BIG DOWNTURN WILL OCCUR IN 2010 WITH SUBSTANTIAL DECLINES TAKING THE DOW INDUSTRIALS DOWN TO AROUND 5500 . THE OIL MARKETS WILL MOST LIKELY TOP OUT AT 85 TO 90 DOLLARS A BARREL. I SEE OIL CORRECTING BACK TO AREA OF 50 DOLLARS IN EARLY 2010 BEFORE TAKING OFF TO A 100 DOLLARS AN OVER.
If oil taxes hugely increase, does that affect the profit on an investment in oil?
Oil out of sight. Precious– metals same. Gold 2000–silver 2-300.
I have been checking my emails regularly about Dr. Weiss’ investment
specialist from Germany, who was going to be investing in the next few
months from March of this year, with Dr. Weiss’ $1M, and was curious how that project has come about? have not heard or read anything for some time now. Is it still going on, or has it been completed?
I do believe we will continue to see a steady rise with an up and down fashion.
You are likely tired of my comments this week as I commented at length a few days ago. My only addition now is concerning Agricultural Commodities and stocks which I believe may well rise fast as the world realises that food supplies are limited.
Regards, Graham Chrystie.
Dear Martin:
I expect the following for 2010:
1. oil higher-near $100 early next year. Then going to 150 in late 2010.
2. stocks higher by end of 2009, then dropping to 600 on S&P as recession deepens into 2010.
3. gold higher to above 1500 in 2010.
There are thousands of acres of oil land under petroleum lease in the USA. But nobody is drilling. Why? Because the once encouraging 27 1/2% depletion allowance at the well head exclusion from taxes is a thing of the past. There is still lots of oil in the USA but it is now taxed by the IRS and most of the states except California and that wont last. Drilling wildcats, or even offsets to known production horizons is expensive and risky. Why be punished for taking a risk? If they ever bring back the depletion allowance hold you hats. The lease hounds, Schlumerger crews and geologists will be back in a big way.
Need oil? We got it!
Thank you so much! I believe metals and oil will lead the way in 2020.
Ithink that by the end of 2010 the dow will end up around 1200 and the best profit oppertunities will be in commodidies, and energy.
Why should the USA not just ditch the dollar and establish a new currency at 10 or 5 or even 1% of current value? If it is no longer the reserve currency and everyone is rejecting the bonds where is the incentive not to bail out and wipe out the level of indebtedness.
2010 will be a roller coaster for investors. After the current mini-bull market runs its course by mid 2010, volitility will reign while we watch the fed try to start mopping up excess liquidity towards mid/end of 2010. After this immpressive run in Commodities through end of 2009, they should level off until world’s banks and investors seek safe havens from the ravages of inflation begginnning to poke it’s nose under the tent towards end of next year.
We will see the greatest slide in the equity market since the great depression. Gold will fall… Many will be caught off guard. Collapse will be global with Asian markets recovering first……..
Dear Martin
Market will remain volatile but at the same level. Oil may be bit higher so Gold will be higher due to weakening $ and more and more country will diversify from other vehicle than $ as loosing ability of $ strength.
May be treasury will go down due to lack of buying by other sovereign govt. to support treasury auction.
Once the investing public catches on to the idea that the $100 in their pocket is worth only $50, prices of commodities will explode. They will enter Hard Money Heaven. Oil, gold, copper - you name it - will look like ICBMs. (intercontinental ballistic missiles). Much as the Treasury would like to keep interest low, it will have no choice but to raise rates, else suffer the consequences of not finding buyers for its bonds and notes. And this will happen sooner rather than later. My commodity investments are already air-borne.
I believer the Dow Jones will reach about 1075 by years end in February -March it will decline and eventually drop back to 550 and remain below 900 for the remainder of 2010. Oil will hold between $80-95.00 and not exceed $120 due to political forces. Gold will not exceed $1400 /oz. Many of our kids will be on Food Stamps by the end of 2010.
DOW 2840
Gold 700
Euro 112
dollar index 110
US Treasu 30 year 7.5%
Silver $8.40
Nasdaq 450
Oil $30
Gas $1.75
If you want any other predictions. I will give them. lol
I believe we will see the Dow at 15000 in 2010, but early 2011 will bring in a sharp downturn. Oil is headed above $100/bl in 2010 and even higher in 2011, possibly $200/bl. Gold will hit $2000/oz in the next two years. In fact, most all natural resources will at least double in value by 2012.
I think we’ll see a significant uptick in US inflation by Q3 2010. That will drive oil & gold prices, etc., higher, based on cheaper dollars not necessarily buying power. However, because oil is (today) so tied to the dollar, a plunging dollar relative to other currencies could drive oil up faster for US comsumers than other commodities.
I will be very interested in the results of your survey and at the actual close of 2009 and 2010 as I am very unsettled by the government debt and the continued devaluation of the US $. There just is not a historical event that has any where near this level of US government intervention into the stock market or privite/public companies and such government “managed” business such as Freedymac and Fanniemax. I am 67 and I thought that my youngest grand kids would be involved in the decline of the US life style but now I think I will see that in the next 3 to 5 years.
Dear Martin,
In my opinion the US$ will continue to slide in a rather rapid fashion.
Maintaining zero interest rate will decimate interest by foreign investors to participate in US bond market. Currencies of the BRIC block will rise exponentially. British Pound will rapidly devalue against most non-exotic currencies. Zimbabwian style inflation for US economy just around the corner.
The S&P will be at 624 on 12/31/2010
Oil will be at $22.50
The Dollar will be at 95
Bank failures will be rampant.
The federal reserve will be in question of it’s solvency.
Housing will be down 72% from it’s peek
Gold will be at $685
Larry Vaughn
Mr. Martin Weiss, thank you so much for helping readers,investors to preserve their sanaty and
investments. It is great to know we have a chance with your news letter. Thanks
Ger Kreutzelman
I see the Dow dropping to about 6,000 by the end of 2,010 because unemployment will continue to rise and consumer confidence will continue to drop, which will finally confince Wall Street that the recovery it thought was here is no where in sight. The place to be is in oil and gold.
Big oil discoveries in the Falkland Islands will be the big news of 2010.
The VIX will remay high and we will have many vallys and highs till the end of next year at which time I think we’ll start a slow move up, it might come after next years elections, or the start of the new year.
There is not much driving the market in 2009 don’t expect many changes, S&P ready to return below 825. Gold has broken away from the Dow will end above 1200.00 by 12/31/09. Hard to find a safe short term investment. 2010 will give many false recoveries,”Don’t bite very hard” 2011 will pick up after better employment numbers. Real property still has 12 month to clear inv. Follow only the monthly trends and have quick exit plan. Then let the fun begain.
I think that most important factor for the economy is the employment level. It will moderatly decrease in 2010.
Second most important, is personal savings which will increase significantly in 2010, close to 10%.
Consumer spendings will be maintained at 2009 level.
Consumer oriented companies will suffer and weaker companies will bankrupt resulting in more vacancies for the commercial real estate companies. They will not be able to meet their mortgage obligations and more commercial banks and state banks will banrupt.
Low consumer spending also mean that manufacturing industries will suffer, import will diminish, transport industry wiil continue to suffer.
Once personnal savings reach 10% in 2011, the economy will start moving upward, new investment will be made, new products will be manufactured, new companies will be created, employment will rise.
Confidence will be restored, dollar will be stonger.
One wish, no more government intervention, no more «to big to fall», no more monopoly money.
Louis Chatel
Dow 6,000 by end of 2,010 because increasing unemployment and decreasing consummer confidence destroys Wall Street’s recovery hopes. Oil and gold is the place to be.
Commodities will be king over the next 24-48 months while we resort the economic order of the planet. I believe the BRIC countries will assume lead role with China, then India leading the way.
If we pass Tax and Cap, we’re dead meat because we are likely the only net payor into the system. This is just another way to achieve the “new world order” desired by some to bring the US down to the level of the EU countries that are suffering the pains of socialism.
Because of huge national deficits, the US dollar will continue to devaluate. On the other hand, with increasing productivity of developing countries such as China, India, Brazil, Russia, etc, the global warming will worsen and there will be increasing shortage of food, water, energy and natual resources. Consequently, prices of oil, metals, agricultural products will surge (e.g., gold will reach 1500, oil 120, but paradoxically, the US Dow Jones will be around 15,000).
1. Obama/Pelosi/Reid will drive the deficit and entitlements into the stratosphere on partisan Health Care and Cap & Tax decisions.
2. GDP growth of 1-2% in Q4 and Q1 with unemployment of 9.5-10.5%. Negative GDP growth for Q2-3 and slow recovery in Q4.
3. The Dow will test its March 2009 low and recover somewhat after the Nov. 2010 election.
4. Bernanke will keep printing money and the 10year Treasury rate will exceed 5% in late 2010 or early 2011.
I look forward to recos for investments for 2010.
I have enjoyed the Weiss report for many years.
Keep up the good work
I feel we should be returning to the Gold Standard. I think USA has been foolish to make the US$ a reserve currency and allowing its trading partners to invest in Treasury Bills and paying them interest. History should have told them that the British Empire’s Reserve Currency GBP was also downgraded when America agreed to FUND world wars and became a large creditor, a role now being taken over by China and shortly India.
It should matter little or nothing if Gold climbs up to $5000/oz. because as an International Trading Reserve Product, each Surplus Country will be able to store WITHOUT INTEREST so no Deficit Country will pay interest on its shortfall but rather only on its borrowings if any. The Politicians will be required to manage their budgets in accordance with their NEEDS rather than their WANTS and pay interest to lenders accordingly from earnings generated.
I am concerned that US will lose its economic influence in Asia, Europe and the whole world, and the world peace will be further threatened.
Here’s a forecast. One thing I try to remember but usually forget is that just becasue something is inevitable does not mean it is eminent so here goes. The dow is expected to go down to about 8860 prior to the end of the year. Am looking for the Dow to then go up to about 11,000 by April/May/Jun and then - I look for inflation to start by the middle of 2010 - interest rates to “start” up and the inflation is expected to be reflected in “stock prices and the Dow to get up to about 14000 by years end. Oil and gold to also reflect the inflationary prices and to hit 200 and 2400 respectively. Hows that for a piece of fiction? Like the way you write Larry
Although things don’t look bright for the year 2010 and thereafter, I hope smart economists, scientisits, and politicians will work together and come up plans to solve problems and save the world.
I think Hunker down…. stocks will tank again with another round of banking debacles as people and businesses default…. So if you can pay off debt, own a piece of land, learn how to grow vegetables. Hold gold, silver and underlying stocks. Believe Chinese stocks will do well but not sure I want to invest over there because of underlying human rights issues.
One thing we haven’t discussed much is Silver. Now that everyone is getting a look at how scarce Gold is, I expect Silver to take off. Silver should hit $25.00 an ounce by the end of the year, and the gold silver ratio should tighten up close to 45 to 1.
The driving force will be the Central Banks hoarding Gold.
The US$ will stablise,at what point? When the Euro and the Rinbin(Yuan)exert enough pressure for a new world currency, If they could agree on which would it be;? Europe would insist on the Euro,China on the Yuan,=compromise (China would not lose face) so,I t would have to be something Tangible,stable,accepeted world wide and not subject to the vagaries of the markets.
My suggestion is a standard volume of a precious metal,silver,gold,Platinum,to which all world currencies would relate to,or have in theircurrency,sort of physdo gold standard.
My concern is that current adm. is taking actions not under our constitution…..acts to move us toward world governing ,the ultimate weakness of the dollar, out of control spending, with the ultimate result that government will be the ultimate control.
IF WE ARE NOT CONCERNED, WE MUST BE ASLEEP RIP. I DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR “SAVIORS” OR THEIR COMPETENCE TO COMBAT/COMPETE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL POWER BROKERS. INTERNALLY WE ARE SUBJECT TO MANIPULATIONS THAT ARE APPARENT IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF ELECTRONIC DATA DISCLOSURES. THE NUMBERS ARE MIND BOGGLING THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULACE WHO HAVE NO REAL AVENUES OF SAFETY FOR THE FUTURE.
TEXAS WORRY W…
The economy will go up and down in the range of the DOW 10,000 and 11,000. Unemployment will be above 10%. Gold will hit around $1150/oz. The national debt will be increasing, as the deficit will be increasing. USA will lose its dominant position in the world. The Euro will be cheaper about 10% - 20%. Unemployment may cause some social unrest and civil disobedience. The world wiil be more polarized, and many neutral countries wil turn against the USA. America should admit many political mistakes she had made after the II World War,and make amends.
I believe that the DOW will continue to expand, but that the economy will be very slow to improve and it will be late 2010 or early 2011 before the employement will begin to turn upward.
I will look at more investment in commodities and select investments in China. I am presently invested in energy, gold, gold mining and financials, but I will continue to keep a cash reserve.
IF WE ARE NOT CONCERNED, WE MUST BE ASLEEP RIP. I DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR “SAVIORS” OR THEIR COMPETENCE TO COMBAT/COMPETE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL POWER BROKERS. INTERNALLY WE ARE SUBJECT TO MANIPULATIONS THAT ARE APPARENT IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF ELECTRONIC DATA DISCLOSURES. THE NUMBERS ARE MIND BOGGLING THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULACE WHO HAVE NO REAL AVENUES OF SAFETY FOR THE FUTURE.
TEXAS WORRY W…
With our countrys debt increasing each day to staggering levels, and personal debt at max levels, WHERE is the money going to come from to bring this country out of this recession? It ISN’T!! Most of those who are still working are playing it safe with their money because they could be next to get the axe. Some people are slowing getting back into the market, but they are like cats on a hot tin roof, they will jump off at the slightest fear. The market will not be above 1200 by the end of 2010.
I am surprised that Israel has not bombed Iran’s Nuclear sites yet, as 2010 draws near, I am certain that Israel has plans to do so, but are waiting for global diplomacy to have it’s chance. That time will run out soon.
Oil prices should slowly rise towards $100 a barrel, but if/when Israel bombs Iran, WATCH OUT! This country is quietly advancing towards oil independence knowing full well that any outbreak of hostilities with Iran will raise hell and havoc with oil prices on the world market.
The value of the dollar will sink more then stabilize, as all world currencies struggle against recession. Gold will rise more above todays level, but will not be able to sustain level above $2000 an ounce.
World weather will cause more problems than we have seen in a long time, as sun spot activity is at its lowest in recorded history, and this will cause more havoc than global warming.
IF WE ARE NOT CONCERNED, WE MUST BE ASLEEP RIP. I DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR “SAVIORS” OR THEIR COMPETENCE TO COMBAT/COMPETE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL POWER BROKERS. INTERNALLY WE ARE SUBJECT TO MANIPULATIONS THAT ARE APPARENT IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF ELECTRONIC DATA DISCLOSURES. THE NUMBERS ARE MIND BOGGLING THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULACE WHO HAVE NO REAL AVENUES OF SAFETY FOR THE FUTURE.
Financial mess will not be resolved for years as the root cause is the housing debacle.
There is a simple, easily implimented solution which is non inflationary, would substantially reduce the number of reposessions, allow the government to make a profit, and would require the banks to improve their balance sheets yet still take responsibility for their loose lending practices … I share my plan and welcome your critic:
• All homes that are presently in default or about to go into default should have their respective mortgage agreements renegotiated if they qualify for the new lower payments. If they do not then the house should be reposed and put up for immediate sale
• The government should take over as the prime lender, offering to refinance on a demand note basis @ 5%. (Interest only no principle)
• Government issues 10 year treasury notes (3.5%) to cover these loans and offers the home owner the homeowner the opportunity to stay in the house paying just interest. (Government profit 1.5% per month)
• Result is the homeowner should be able to reduce his payment by ~ $2,000 per month for a 30 year $360,000.00 mortgage.
• Government could even add up to $10,000.00 to pay off a credit card balance for qualified home owners. (+$31.25 per month) If their DSR is in line.
• Any homeowner that defaults on these “interest only payments” goes into immediate repossession… No exception
• Government sells the house back to the existing bank for the amount originally owing and the bank puts the house up for immediate sale, and takes the loss. (In the case of default … Bank still owns the risk)
• Homeowners have 10 years to repurchase their homes through traditional lending practices (i.e. Financial Institutional Mortgages) Normal inflation / currency devaluation should have these homes back into an equity position well before the 10 years is up.
• Government buys back the treasury notes whenever a home loan is repaid insuring no increase in government debt.
• In addition, to remove the glut of homes currently on the market, the government holds a limited lottery for non residence who purchase (mortgage free) a home to be granted citizenship … (example) First million homes purchased by qualified buyers ( Subject to Home Land Security pre screening) gets full citizenship with all the benefits that current citizens receive
Benefits
1. No additional government debt with a guaranteed profit.
2. Non inflationary (money taken out of the system when the house is repaid)
3. Immediate removal of the over supply of homes thus increasing prices which will stimulate the construction industry.
4. An additional 1,000,000 tax paying citizens with financial means.
5. Americans get to keep their homes plus have the added advantage of increasing their disposal income with the reduction of credit card fees and reduced house payments.
6. With normal inflation, it is expected that the home values will increase over the next 10 years where the home owners will be in an equity position and be able to refinance through conventional means.
7. Immediate stimulus to the economy with the additional credit card leverage.
8. Banks will have an immediate increase in Capital and their Balance Sheet / Liabilities should be greatly improved with the increased affordability to the homeowner. Stronger balance sheets will lead to an immediate increase in lending which will free up the capital markets and release the economy from the current deflationary pressure.
9. Similar relieve will be immediate in the credit default swap market.
10. Calm will reach world financial markets without inflationary pressures, without government ownership. The banks will incur the losses they deserve for their irresponsibility, but not to the degree they potentially would have, and the American homeowners will be able to keep their homes.
From a personal point of view, I believe our taxes will soar. especially any capital gains from stocks. Number of people on welfare whether legal or illegal will soar and abuse will be more rampant than now.
The market will move according to its own cycles regardless of spin. Dollar will eventually be devalued. Am looking to see if we have a “U’ or “W” recovery market….sure doesn’t look like a “V”
gold up to almost 1100 today…will be up to 1200 by 1/1/10
Hi Martin,
I do not have an exact prediction that I completely trust because for the last couple of years the market has been like watching a crazy person on the street corner talking to themselves and you have absolutely no idea which way they are going to turn…. they defy logic! All of a sudden a big truck roars by and this mentally challenged person spins around and goes north or south seemingly on a whim.
Similarly the market has been going up when down is expected and down when up is expected. Then suprised TV pundits start saying over and OVER: “Ah well, the market is driven by emotion”. In the end we believe the pundits right because there is the proof… the market is down (or up). We think WOW was I was having the wrong emotion!!
Maybe, just maybe is it possible the market is unpredictable because we are not in the billionair’s (those that control the trillions in derivative contracts) club? Could the billionairs be informed about the “truck about to wizz by” in advance (ie: Lehman Brothers demise, etc)? Could the billionairs be instantly ready and in concert put in sell (or buy) signal during and after the truck roars by - thus helping to create our emotion as we helplessly watch the freefall (or run up)? As market appears to dive bomb (or defy gravity) and after a week or a month us little guys begin crying in our soup and admitting we were “wrong” we finally jump on board like sheep. If we are lucky, we get the the last 20% of the run before the market turns suddenly when the next Mack truck unexpectedly wizzes by from the opposite direction and reverses the market by another 40%.
My concern above remains an unknown, so now I do not trust my “logic” anymore and do not have a definite prediction but instead want to buy and hold long term companies that have little or no debt, and that are valuable recession proof commodities while at the same time would also do well in a boom…. I can only think of three categories of commodities that would meet that criteria gold, silver, natural/organic foods. If there are others please let me know.
Thanks, Barbara
I believe Obama’s reckless venture into green will never solve our dependence on foreign resources in a 100+ years. He has his own agenda. The best interest of the American people may not be part of Obama’s plans. He is self serving and his actions indicate bigger government and more control of our freedom. The free-market system is in great danger. His actions may make this country less safe.
With the wasted TARP MONEY we could be well on our way to solving our energy problems, that was cause by the special interest groups. We must explore every avenue of our vast natural resources. No State must be excluded. Every resource must be utlized. We have the technology to do it safely.
Hello Martin,
I have submitted my contest on the Dow at the end of 2010. My feeling is that Dow can only go up, although it may zigzags. Why? (1) most American companies have trimmed their wastes through the recent recession, and will be more profitable. (2) the US dollar will become cheaper relative to the currencies of emerging countires (China, Brazil, India), and US export will increase while import decrease. (3) the goods from emerging countries will becme more expensive due to their rising living standard. When US companires make money, DOW will go up. US interest rate wil have to go up to control the inflation. Oil will go up because the consumption by the world increases but production is not. Gold? I am not sure. Gold is a good hedge against inflation, but not an “active” or “live” currency being used for trade. It will stay at the current high, but probably cannot go any higher. If inflation is controlled by a higher interest, gold may not go too high. Just my two cents. David
Dear Martin,
Congratulations for your work and your politics and institutional efforts.
I’m also from Brazil. I say that because I was born here, while you are a true Brazilian in your heart.
I am a teacher at the Pontifical Catholic University of São Paulo in the area of political economy. I research the business cycle as well as geopolitics.
Dawn I describe how I see the economic scenarios and the geopolitical one.
Economic scenarios
The cycles have an average of about 6 to 7 years. In my mark for the cycles of the postwar economic world leader, the United States, the latest crisis begun in early 2007. Therefore, the next start will be necessarily within a window that begins in early 2013 and will be closed in early 2014. That goes for the U.S. economy and also for the world economy since there is strong synchrony between national economies in the globalized economy.
Worth a lot for business in general has mastery of the theory of business cycles and their occurrences, their history. This is, in my opinion, the most important tool for forecasting and make scenarios. The cycles are endogenous and are based on the material structure of production.
The next crisis is likely to occur after a recovery very weak or even nonexistent. In this sense I have two scenarios: a) crisis in 2013 to inaugurate a depression b) crisis in 2013 already in a depression in progress. It depends on what happens in the coming days, if we have the beginning of a depression for that matter in late 2009 and early 2010, or the begin of a minimal recovery.
The Dow Jones, it’s all makeup. There are nothing in the fundamentals of the U.S. economy to justify the performance of the stock market. On the other hand, is palpable the bursting of the fantastic bubble that now underpins the stock price of companies and banks. The P/E is on stratospheric layer. Everything will collapse soon. There are no way out for the deficit monetization. Apparently this will happen within a major disaster of the U.S. Dollar. Well, that makes up the fundamentals of the scenario of a depression that can start now. If the U.S. economy collapses, the world will follow - there is no escape out this dynamic.
Geopolitical
For the world as a whole, we are in the later stages of the BIG GAME. At this stage the new global polarization has already happened and ends its latest bindings. India and Japan are the undecided “voters”, but they are in advanced stages of binding. The two poles are headed: a) the United States on one hand, the “old Europe” of another. Russia, China and Brazil have engaged the “old Europe”. In Latin America as a whole we see today the development of the clash between Brazil, as upward force, and the United States, as downforce. The capital of power and management in Latin America, including black Africa, is Sao Paulo - megalopolis that you know very well. The stakes in the Brazilian economy are the best, despite the very gloomy scenario that we see for the world economy.
A big hug
Jason Borba
Please: excuses for my very poor English
the market could climb higher if we see hyperinflation
Not too ago, I heard something to the effect that makeup of our genetic structure, while inherited from our parents, undergoes changes during each individual’s lifetime. In other words, we are also the product of various genetic changes that occur over generations, which have been the result of various environmental influences (nature vs. nurture).
It occurs to me then, that at this particular juncture, the “Jackass Dumb” gene may now be predominating the American bio-physio-psychological make up. (Anything approaching an objective view of the behavior of our political leaders should make this more then abundantly clear).
Perhaps this phenomenon is not such an anomaly when taken in the historical context of “Empires” just prior to their collapse. For instance, I believe that scientists have theorized that the fall of the Roman Empire was due, at least in part, to a type of dementia that gradually overtook the population (especially the ruling classes) as the result of imbibing wine from mercury laden chalices.
Whatever the causative factors, one can hardly avoid the fact that the telltale signs of some such similar phenomenon are now everywhere about us ……. right here in the good old USA.
Solution: If at all possible, get your ass out of the U.S.!
Martin, You know how foolish it is to make future predictions. The key problems relate to
1. Can the US government make the right policy decisions to correct the deficit and stabilize the banking system?
2. When will unemployment reverse?
These are the critical problems.
I am mainly invested in quality bonds 60%, stocks 20%, and cash 20%. This year has been an education on managing volitility and understanding that the key issue is not to be rich but rather how to be more careful and avoid poverty.
Joseph kahl— 11.4.2009. America has always been the economic power house and fore runner in many areas in the world. The depreciating or falling DOLLAR value will give U.S. exports a boost, and improve overall U.S. manufacturing, which should create DOMESTIC demand for locally produced U.S. goods, against higher external imports into the U.S, and possibly improve job security and employment. External countries currencies valuations will either have to appreciate or depreciate relative to the U.S. dollar, in order to make their exports attractive to the U.S. consumer, and remain competitive. Any robust or rebounding economy can digest gradual higher interest rates and some degree of rising inflation. Trade imbalances should be minimized and contained e.g. China exports to the U.S. Debt obligations and Credit balloons when export and import trade imbalances exists,e.g. China’s percentage ratio exports into the U.S. Notably,China’s export feeding frenzy of and towards the U.S. domestic market, has tremendously escalated its earnings Surplus position, and more so as a result of an under valued Yuan. Invade any consumer oriented economy with cheaper exports, extensive low domestic interest rates time frames, can enslave any country citizenry, and make it a consumer oriented glutton society, with abundant and inherent National debt from external lenders having favored trade exchange leverage.
But then again, trade imbalances, volatility of one kind or another in the commercial world of free markets exchanges and activities, keeps free enterprise alive. This submission is not cast in stone, and conveys my personal assessment.
Martin,
Thanks for the opportunity to submit a 2010 forecast. This is really a great idea. I have already submiited my forecast and am waiting for your email confirming my complementary subscrition to one of your newsletters.
I just have one comment to make. Are you considering the possibility (or rather inevitability) of surge in unionism and lobbying by organized labour particularly in North America and Western Europe in your forecasts? If not, you better take this into account. This is going to have very serious impact on free trade policies and the resultant world trade. So far, the business and the corporate world had what they wanted. Now the tide would turn against them as the economic conditions deteriorate. I have strong belief that America would have not come to this calamity, had manufacturing remained here. You can not maintain a high living standard in a society that produces nothing and only consumes.
JProbably you are aware, already organized labour and unions have started getting into white house and Obama is listening to them. How much he acts per their advice will depend a lot upon how far the imminent collapse will go. I think it is going to be terrible as we enter into Kondratieff Winter. Probably, Gerald Celente will prove to be very much right during next year or so.
Cheers.
Dear Martin,
Here are my predictions asof 1/1/10;
DJIA 1100
NASDAQ 2,100
S&P 500 1,100
Russell 2000 600
10-Yr T Note 3.85%
Gold $1,150
Crude Oil $85.00
USD 75
I think the Dow will continue to rise for a quarter or two in 2010, but expect a significant drop when people finally face the reality of the enormous debt our government has loaded on us, without any effort to make real changes for growth.
It’s possible Obama will luck out, anything can happen. otherwise we are in for a rough time.
The monthly chart of the $DJI seems to be strong,
RSI is at 47 almost long and % Williams is at -24 which is long…
although market is reversing back down a bit here now …but the trend
and channel remain intact…although we are at the bottom of the
channel…so if we hold here, we keep going up is my guess.
I am not sure what will happen
next, but the trend has been strong since March, with
another pullback currently that has not totally broken us down,
so we have to think that we continue up till year end. Between
Sept and Oct. we had a 1,500 point move almost…
another one of those and we are at 11,500 which is my prediction
for year end. Gold and Oil will lead the markets up now, unless some
Dollar manipulation is done by Fed?….This pullback has been healthy the last
2-3 weeks or so…but if too much of the truth comes out…this market
might visit the July lows…. Pray for Peace, and Health for All
Hate to sound like a humbug, but we are not in a capitalist system anymore - it is now corporatist. That is not semantics. Global corporations, especially Banks and related entities, aided by modern technologies, are no longer subject to oversight by government or its institutions, in fact the reverse is true. They have wealth, power and an international jurisdiction that governments can only dream about. In many cases they have bought governments and their institutions, including the courts and regulators. They truly believe they can do a better job at running things than entity to date.
There is not conspiracy in the strictest sense, so readily dismissed by most sober- minded people. Take for example the over-used term “New World Order”. Then compare the US and EU definitions or versions, and their relative aspirations in that regard - it is a little troublesome. In prediction of the future, we are now longer safe using any of the classic models. The reason is that there truly is an elite (G-20, IMF, World Bank, BIS, etc) who do get together - not in conspiracy - but to create consensus on “next steps”. Without a glass to the outside wall, and your ear to the glass, who knows what that consensus will be over time. But we can be sure that with control of supra-global institutions capable of transferring information or implementing decisions in nano-seconds, you are now betting against the house….in a similar way to going to a casino.
It is not free-market capitalism that we are trying to assess, but global corporations controlled by an elite, not always in agreement. And we have no personal access to these people and their close minions. We cannot read the signs through the media - it is a distorting lense. I have guessed, for fun. But I put aside all professional medels and theories applying to capitalism in doing so.
What we have seen in the past three decades was not capitalism, and it is important to know the difference, without becoming too paraniod. It was a foretaste of things to come. We are in a whole new game, and few seem to realize it. We have to wakr up to keep that game honest because they can now make up the rules as they go along. It’s not the end of the world, but the beginning of a new era. We just have to clue in and perhaps be a little more pro-active in keeping them from loading the dice - because the old ways of holding them in chek are passe.
M1 money supply is up over 14% year to year. M2 is up 8%. This is after treasury department almost doubled the money supply via the printing press. Americans are spending less, and the banks are holding onto their money.
Once a little bit of velocity kicks in, methinx we could be looking at 100% inflation per year, although 10-15% is more likely. But by 2010? Doubtful. I still see oil at just under $200/ bbl; Gold at $1650/ oz; silver at $30/ oz, and a dow at 12,000, mostly due to inflation and further declines of the dollar.
Jimmy Carter, we miss you. :-j
Dear Martin.
I entered your forecast contest last night. I understood that I would get an E-Mail according me the selection of a 3 month subscription to my choice of newsletters but
as yet no such notification has appeared in in inbox. Is it supposed to happen right away or do we wait to the end of the year?
Hope to hear your answer soon.
Cecile
I believe noone can predict my than 25%of what will happen-you may be an expert in one area,but not in all,I do not believe there is any one person,who can judge bond,domestic stocks, foreign stocks, commodities,etc
Sadly, I see another 1929 ahead. I’m 94 now and I dread to think of the young people who will be saddled by our enormous debt.
At 94 I have gone through the great depression and envision another in the future.
You need to save your financial self, as the government is printing wildly. Buy gold and oil!
I think cash is king then initially bonds at some point in 2010-2011 with once in a lifetime opportunities 2012-2015 in selected stocks, real estate. If the Fed doesn’t bow to pressure to keep from printing up money, gold might be the best play at some point.
Martin, I still believe your original analysis of the situation is correct. I think we are seeing some incredible similarities to The Great Depression, and the next big drop in the stock market is just around the corner. I think those who are predicting a correction in gold and silver are going to be waiting a long time. Silver is probably the best deal out there is you want to protect your money, because I think it’s very undervalued compared to gold. Both will be much higher by the end of 2010. I’m afraid unemployment will get much worse, so consumer spending will continue to fall. Due to this we will have a real problem trying to get the economy going again. The bailouts, and reckless government spending have assured the dollar will buy less and less, so I expect inflation and higher interest rates will compound the problem sooner than the deflationists expect. The new administration has compounded our oil problem at precisely the wrong time, and this will haunt us for a long time. As you say, I’m sure smart investors will make a lot of money, the rest will lose even more than they did in the first leg of this bear market.
Keep up the great work, and thanks for your excellent advice!
Jon
I think the dollar will have a rebound but gold will continue to rise though somewhat dampened by the rise in the dollar. I expect the Dow to hit about 6500 by year end ‘09. The Dow will continue in a downward trend for 2010 with brief rebounds, a low of 3,500 to 4,000. Oil will close below $80 dollars this year 09, and vary between $50 and $70 per barrel in 2010. Asian markets, Shanghai in particular, will experience a severe decline yet in comparison with the declines in other markets the yearly return will be better. Commercial Real Estate will go through a serious contraction, more shopping malls half empty and in receivership or bankruptcy starting after the ‘09 dismal Christmas shopping. 2010 should witness several national clothing retailers close or go into bk. New car prices should continue in decline in 2010 in the range of 10%. Used cars will be in greater demand as buyers substitute for new cars. Wall Mart and Target should have increased sales but in lower priced goods. Items sold may increase but gross revenue decline. Municipal bonds will come under severe pressure as states and counties fail to produce the revenue needed for bond payments. Some large cities may go BK. Some states may go BK. Attendance at movie theaters will be dependent on lowered ticket prices, $5 to $7 range. Hollywood will feel the pinch, one or more studios may go under. High end restaurants (dinners above $25) will be under severe pressure and many will go under. Mid range restaurants (dinners above $12) will slash prices to survive. Fast food restaurants will gather new customers but still face price pressures but all should survive 2010 without bk. Residential home prices will continue on a downward slide from ‘09 prices. One or more of the large TARP rescued banks may go under as congressional investigations uncover serious wrongdoing. The Financial sector will be on very thin ice and many more regional banks will go under. Many businesses which relied on CIT for financing may not be able to find a substitute and fail. CLothing and home furnishings should experience severe retail price cutting. US Treasury debt and high end corporate bonds will be in demand along with gold. Commodities should fall through 2010. Consumer, Commercial and Industrial debt should continue to contract. Restrictive bank lending rules and shaky borrowers will drive the reduction in Consumer, Commercial and Industrial debt. The dollar should rise in value and scarcity. There may be hoarding.
I expect oil price to continue to rise above $110 a bbl in 2010. I expect
inflation to increase and PMs to rise in price. The Dow and s@p should also rise.
Would that be a crack up boom?
Hi guys. I voted, and here are the details of my analysis. I believe the current rebound is pure fake caused by an unprecedented wild money printing worldwide to …well, it just moves the problem further away, as our politicians do best in the last half of century : enjoy now, pay later. So we have to pay one day, and the more we wait, the more we have to pay.
The big consequence of the recent moves is that we saved the banks to doom the states. US, UK, Japan heading the list, I’m unsure of the order, but UK may fall first.
Therefore crisis will come with a revenge in 2010, and there will be no bottom until 2013.
This means
- Petrol will finally not reach new records, and stay at reasonable prices despite we’re now well beyond peak oil.
- Gold will move higher, but not so much (I voted for 1000-1500$, but I’d prefer say 1000€ - because the big unknown is how much dollar will fail)
- Dollar will fail, but this remains slowed by the stupid bankers attitude to “go back to safety”, which in fact has nothing to do with safety, but with the fact the performance of their portfolio is judged in dollars, not in actual purchasing power, so even if the dollar fails, if they are able to refund as many dollar as their customers gave them in the first place, it’s OK for them.
- Interest rates will rise, as confidence in states will erode….My belief is that this will be the trigger of the next huge leg down, as it will mechanically put the more endebted in bankrupcy (see my previous list of countries)
Of course, I may be wrong…
Regards to all..
I am concerned in the impact the dollar drop in value will have on Real Estate in the US.
I see a great concern on oil, by it rising much further, zero chance at any recovery. Gold is in a bubble…waiting to pop…
Any comments on playing N. Gas through UNG?
Natural gas can replace diesel at 1/2 the cost and is 90% cleaner. We also have a distribution system set up throughout most of the country.
Bills are in the congress to give tax credits to conert “large vehicles” to NGAS. Walmart and other are already doing this.
NGAS has traded at 1/8th the price of oil, historically.
Martin,
Thank you for openning up the discussion. With all the noise everywhere, it is hard for one to figure out what course of action to take. I think this is especially true when you can not trust much of anything that is reported. To get a handle on it, I think one has to go through the follwing steps (1) Decide on what your goal is and take responsibility for achieving it, (2) Determine what the big picture is and what the big trends are that will impact your goal, (3) Get reliabile advice for a trusted source, and (4) Make some decisions and take action. You and your team have been a very valuable source for items (2) and (3) above, and your team impressively been out in front of many of the key issues.
I don’t believe you and I can turn the Titanic when it is heading into the iceberg, but we can get in our own lifeboat and move to safety.
With regard to healthcare and energy —- Unless the corruption is brought under control — most of the good ideas mentioned will never be done. Sad but true. We haven’t had anything close to a free market since Reagan. we must get gov’t spending cut massivly. Lower taxes and give the private sector incentives to build businesses and create jobs. Oil and gold are also under the influence of the banksters. The Fed keeps printing moola! Unemployment keeps going up. I hope that real concern for the country overides special interests. Unless priorities change, the U.S. Dollar will continue to weaken going into 2010. Believe me, I really hope I’m wrong for the sake of our country. Am I wrong?????
I’m concerned about the continual inrease of the national debt. I hope a solution is found for our economic problems in the coming years.
I’m concerned about the housing market. Hopefully the supply will diminish in the coming years and resolve mcuh of the problem.
Oil: While I expect votility in oil and possible very high spikes, the price will not stay prohibitively high as developed countries will come up with alternate sources of energy. I believe the reason oil prices came down in the past several years is that the oil rich suppliers realized we, in the U. S., were starting to develop these alternatives (such as gasoline substitutes and additives) and they wanted us to stop. Unfortunately, we did stop as the price came back down for oil. China and India will take up some of the slack in supply but they, too, will develop alternate sources if the prices remain prohibitively high.
Oil isn’t going to go up in relative value and STAY up because of this. It willl go up and stay up in dollars due to inflation.
Don
Market is a place where no body is wrong every body is Mr right.All p&m failed when Gold reach $1100.Spend as much as your pocket permit
I have read other analysts that believe that portion of your portfolio should include “zero coupon bonds” eventhough they generally agree with you view on where our economy is and where it’s headed. With interest rates as low as they are, I just can’t understand the logic of that. Do you have an opioion?
The current situation on Wall Street has nothing to back it up except the U.S. government with U.S. currency which is worth less and less each day. Gold is overpriced and oil for energy is being consumed internationally. My thoughts go to clean drinking water and water purification as being the next resources that will hit the radar.
One important part of the imbalances plaguing the U.S. economy is the trade imbalances with China and other countries. The trade imbalances caused by China’s currency controls get a lot of print. Several insightsful commentators have said that China’s currency is undervalued by as much as 40%. When I see such numbers I always think that the real number must be much greater. Based on my personal limited experience in China, and information from expatriate Chinese that go there to visit, lots of everday goods and services are priced about the same in Chinese currency as the corresponding good or service price in USD here. If that is the case, the Chinese currency would be undervalued by as much as 600%. No wonder then if the Chinese mercantilistic policy can bring them great benefits at the expense of other nations. But can it really be possible for them to get away with such an extreme undervaluation? First of all, observations about the prices paid by the average Chinese don’t represent the prices of all the goods and services in the entire economy. Luxury goods and imported items tend to be more expensive in China. Not necessarily more expensive than here based on the official exchange rate, but much more expensive than the items a family needs to live. There are huge difference price differences between luxury hotels and restaurants on the one side, and what a locally knowledgeable and budget minded person may pay. One would think that such big price differences would be gradually erased by the free choice of the thrifty Chinese consumer, but status is so ridiculously important to the Chinese. Those who have money gladly pay a lot more than they have to. All of this would seem to support the existence of a multi-tiered economy where those compiling price indices might come to wildly differing conclusions, such as saying that the renminbi is 40% undervalued rather than 600%. Those who say 40% may be including in their analysis a lot of commodities that China must import. I believe the Chinese government severely limits the extent to which those prices are reflected in the budget of the man in the street. I am no economist, but it seems to me that the exchange rate more reflects what China buys, such as raw materials and luxury goods, while the prices that average Chinese pay to live is reflected in the very low prices of Chinese export goods. I am no economist, but it seems to me that since the Chinese exports are so much greater than their imports, the “cheap” tier of the Chinese economy (where the renminbi is undervalued by perhaps 600%) must still be much bigger than the expensive tier of their economy (or they wouldn’t be able to export such a volume of goods). When one tries to estimate a “fair” exchange rate, shouldn’t one rely more on the large “cheap” Chinese economy tier than on the smaller luxury tier and the state-controlled import prices?
In reference to bank bailouts - why don’t they call the $8000 first home credit what it really is? That credit is not generating any kind new employment (except for the IRS auditors) or new construction. It is really another bank bailout with a different name.
How can anyone guess how our economy is going to be anytime in the future when the government keeps “shooting from the hip”!
The idea that gold should be about $2000 per oz. to equate to the inflation adjusted high of about $800 per oz. in 1980 might have a bit of a logic flaw in it : The high in 1980 went way beyond the fundamentals at the time - it was a speculative blowoff. Then it dropped back down to about 250 and stayed low for about 20 years. So it might not be a realistic peak to compare with.
To Whom It May Concern,
Rather than make predictions - my approach to the new year will be watching it closely. A couple of the items I will be watching will be capacity utilization and unrmployment. Additionally, using an exponentially weighted moving average (from WINKS Statistical software - professional edition) to detect early on changes in the latest CPI - U and London Gold Fix prices. The CPI - U signals changes in inflation and would cause me to seriously consider buying some more gold. To track changes in the CPI - U is like doing the arithmetic to calculate compound interest in a bank account - except that the “interest varies.” A graduate student, studying economics at Columbia University (in New York City) showed me how to do this The price of gold is one way of taking the pulse of which way inflation is moving as well.
Sincerely,
Robert
P.S. I do not think that I ever would buy gold mining stocks because gold mines can be nationalized. Additionally, I would never carry gold on my person but rather keep it in a safe at a friends or relatives house - and not in my house.
When you get the modern (”religious”) prophets, the conservative financials, and the market indicators saying the same things, something is going to happen! Gold, oil, other commodities, etc. have no where to go but up.
I think that monetary inflation is occurring but only spotty goods inflation.
With the layoffs there will not be more money chasing few goods but less money chasing the same number of goods. The govt can print all it wants but if it is not in the hands of the consumer it will do no good.
Most of the printed money may be going into the black hole of debt.
If business don’t lower prices they won’t survive.
I think that the greater trend is to one worker per family just as before WW2 and before we had the only intact factories in the world - we don’t now.
This is deflation not inflation.
Mr. Weiss,
The way i see it, I predict a very tough and miserable economic row, through 2010.
I don’t know if you folks have caught this way back east in the US, where you are, but out here in the Pacific Northwest, particularly in Oregon; the HUGE big names in the Lumber industry and just lately the pulp and paper giants, have went through massive lay-offs, keeping only skeleton crews on at their mills. These small crews are working to finish the last of the orders, and get them shipped out, then they will help in moth-balling their mills and plants, as the companies are shutting them completely down!
Its one thing to lay-off half of the workers to get through a long, lean winter, they do this often out here. But this time, they are shutting the mills and plants completely down, closing up shop and sending everyone home!
This is Weyerhauser in Oregon, this is International Paper and pulp mills in Albany, Oregon and I’m told, other Oregon cities where they have pulp mills. This is wood products mills, field-wide in Oregon.
I would like to know what Weyerhauser is doing with their huge main mills up in Washington State, particularly those around Tacoma and the Puget Sound area? Can anyone from Washington tell me?
These huge top level companines are the infrastructure companies in Oregon and the Northwest! When they go down, that directly and quickly affects the municipal and public infastructure and rips apart the private business sector!
I see all the headlines telling us that we are in slow recovery…things are getting better, but they can’t be talking about Oregons economy!
Mr. Weiss, what in the world should we in the USA do, when the whole infrastructure collapses? I mean, we are not in recession any longer, we are in depression and its getting quickly worse, not better!
So, what can we do? Move to other countries with stable economies, and what would those countries be?
I don’t know, but things out here in the Northwest have just went from bad, to much worse, in the last 2-3 weeks or so!
Just thought I’d alert you to this collapse out here….see if you can find out what is really going on! You can get information we can’t read in our local and state-wide newspapers out here!
Thank you for all your help to us all!
Ever see the movie “Wall Street,” starring Michael Douglas? If so, I have a stock for you. It’s called Gold Reserve, Inc. (GRZ), which was at one point Larry Edelson’s # 1 gold stock. West Face Capital, Inc., a large Canadian hedge fund, has started aggressively acquiring Gold Reserve’s stock. In less than one month, West Face has purchased over 14% of Gold Reserve’s stock. As they said in the movie, “Gold Reserve is in play.”
Best investment opportunities will require focusing on select commodities, particularly precious metals. I’ve been in this business forever, and remember silver at $44.00 oz. select gold mining stocks offer good long term value.
You’re right. This is deflation, especially when one throws in the demographic trends.The recent good news regarding GDP won’t be enough to ignite a recovery that would spark inflation. That’s why monetary policy will remain loose.
More of the same .
higher unemployment.Slight inflation increase. Congress doing nothing as usual except helping themselves to anything they can
Cut up your creditcards. Pay down your mortgage as quickly as possible. And if you have any savings left buy gold.
After the health care bill is passed by Congress and the Senate; and, Imigration bill and the Cap and Trade Bill are passed, the prediction of 9,000+ that I gave will be too hight since our economy will be in the tank and the country will be on it’s way to being a third rate economy and country. We are in the throws of a revolution and no one is standing for our constitution. Inflation will be extraordinary.
The commodity markets will be good so long as the new government doesn’t take the right to invest away.