Click here to comment on Part One of Solving the Timing Mystery and to tell us how we can best help you in next week’s presentation of Part Two!
More than 43,000 investors registered to be on-hand as we revealed how this missing piece of the timing puzzle can help them buy lower and sell higher.
And already, a veritable flood of “thank-you” emails is filling our inboxes here at Weiss Research!
IMPORTANT: If you missed today’s briefing or want to watch it again, we’re leaving the recording online for 48 hours — just turn up your computer speakers and click this link to view it now!
In the meantime, as we prepare for NEXT week’s briefing — Part Two of this historic series — I need you to do me a very important favor:
If you attended or watched the video, I need you to use this blog to tell me what you thought about today’s event. Your comments will help us help more investors in events like this one throughout the rest of 2009 and beyond.
Equally important, please tell me: Can you see how incorporating The Foundation’s cyclical analysis in your investment timing decisions could help you go for greater, more consistent profits both now and when this bear market finally ends?
And whether you attended today’s briefing or not, I need to know your most pressing questions about stock market timing and cyclical timing signals right now — as we prepare to present Part Two of this timely series.
So just click here to give me your comments now — your feedback will go a long way towards making next Wednesday’s second session of Solving the Timing Mystery a breakthrough in your investing lifetime.
Best wishes,
Martin
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Today’s online briefing is very very useful. Thanks a million!
I thought today’s presentation was very good. I would like to see what the future cycles in the DOW, Stocks, and interest rates are for the next 20 years.
Talk more about how fractional reserve monetary policy and the Fed’s role in economic boom and bust cycles…which are anything but “natural”
Great briefing! The only disappointment is that I have to wait a week until I learn more. I have been following the concepts presented with Larry’s Real Wealth newsletter and was hoping that this briefing would be derivitive from the same source. Can’t wait until next week to findd out how to utlilze this powerful discover.
Very compelling presentation! Great news that these resources will be falling under the Weiss umbrella of products and offerings as well!
Martin,
Great briefing and very informative. I loved the format, calm cool and colletive.
Thanks,
David
I have been studying cycles myself for about 5 years so I know the are valuable. Actually,
the reason I recently signed up for your newsletter is I was under the impression you had or have access to Martine Armstrong model. Not many of us cycle analyst are better than Armstrong.
Great show! I am waiting for the next shoe to drop, particularly since I am an ex-patriate from your Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio.
I think it might have been useful to have the Foundation person comment on the relationship. Why he entered into an exclusive agreement, who were his customers before, etc. Why was it a “coup”.
Martin, when you are speaking to Larry, you should turn to look at him.
That information was great and I am looking forward to the next session. I appreciated the candid and factual presentation. Good work.
I thought this was the best seminar you have ever had,and not simply a sales pitch. I personally used to subscribe to the Foundation for the Study of Cycles many years ago , but the software was not available then so it was not easy to study the markets on ones own. One would like to see more examples and learn about the accuracy of the predictions from numerous tests
Today’s webinar was interesting to say the least, very good, useful information for investors. I look forward to Part2, to better understand the mechanism of implementing this information in our current investing practice.
Very good information! Thanks
very useful tool is available to make investment decisions for the long term investor . W/o timing we keep getting crushed by Cycles while the Fundamentals look decent. This helps explain the Bias of Poor performance. thanks
I found the ‘Solving the Timing Mystery’ online webinar very timely since I have gone back to studying market history since September 2008. I have found it eerily remarkable that history, including financial markets, repeat themselves. In addition I am studying the Fibonnaci Sequence and the ‘Golden Ratio’.
I have been using this trend analysis in my own portfolio. I am devouring as much information as possible to improve my overall returns for myself and my family. I believe that Mr. Richard Mogey is right on target with his ‘bold’ prediction of economic chaos, i.e. the forthcoming perfect storm.
I look forward to the next installment of ‘Solving the Timing Mystery’. Thanks again for all your hard work in these most difficult times.
I thought the program was good, I knew there were cycles but did not know how deep they go into what we do. Also did not understand that stocks have cycles. Yes, It was very good. I will be there next week.
I did have a problem with my browser and the program came over with fits and starts.
I found it very interesting and informative and very friendly too. Hope next week’s show will provide some simple mathmatics / techniques we can use on our own.
Many thanks, Tom
I was fascinated by the presentation and felt it was quite convincing and enlightenling. I look forward to Part II and anticipate taking notes–possibly copious ones, as I want to make the information truly useful. This is my concern, i.e. that information be given in a practical and usable manner even for stock-market novices like myself. I am a pragmatist by nature and need to be seriously pragmatic about the modest funds we have available to invest.
I am an automoblie supplier and I need this information to survive. I am dealing more and more with the internationals suppliers and I need more info on global vs. US. I strongly believe the next event will not be in the charts (i.e.) warnings on Greece, Balkins, Isreal etc.
I would like to see more examples of how it works in different markets with attempts to gauge errors in predictions. There are many others who have done extensive work on cycles in the markets including Hurst, Elliot, Gann , Eliades and Welles Wilder with his Delta approach.
Very interesting briefing, valuable and in sync with my own intuition. I am looking forward to part 2 and am hoping it will include comment on the vehicles in which i am invested.
Martin,
I thought today`s briefing was very interesting but it seemed somewhat general and would like to see more detailed info to prove this theory of cycles.
Greg
Martin,
I would like to know how you plan to incororate the Foundation information into your online newsletter for the investors to access and to understand how to use it, as well how many other guests & topics will showcase with a webinar?
Well Done!
Libby
Very good session.
Will attend the one next week.
Martin: The broadcast today was the best investment information I have ever had the pleasure of hearing. I had absolutely no idea that such information was out there – my portfolio, as a result of the ravages of 2008, bears witness to a need for much much better information on a timely basis. I cannot wait for next week’s broadcast. As far as I know, no one else is saying that we have ANOTHER 3 years of this bear market!!
Watching today’s broadcast makes me realise just how inadequate my informational resources have been.
Regards,
John Kemp
Todays’ online briefing – Solving the Timing Mystery, Part One – provided insight to a potentially powerful, strategic investing tool. Thank you!
I throughly enjoyed the presentation and found it very helpful. I would certainly consider incorporating the information about my samples in my personal trading and investing if it is made available at a reasonable price. I think the value of the presentation could be enhanced if the charts could be made available as e-mail attachment.
The guest spoke with authority and presented a very credible argument. Good questioning by the Doc and Edelson to make sure the message got through.
How will you use the information to guide investments for those who entrust their wealth management to you, differently from how you have managed assets before this?
Hi Martin,
I found Part I of the Timming Seminar very informative and suprised by the acuracy of the cycles. The question is how do we apply these findings to the stocks to generate buy/sell orders and avoid the crowd behavior.
Thank you Dr. Weiss. You have a remarkable service and it does not cost me a fortune. Even though I don’t have money to invest, I feel much more confident that I can hold on to what I have. I have a much better understanding about “timing”. I’ll keep paying attention. Thanks again.
alison cline
Gentlemen:
I certainly enjoyed the seminar today and it held my attention for the full hour. I look forward to the 2nd part next Monday. Of course, there are many comments by other financial advisors about market timing and charting – both positive and negative. I will evaluate after the second session to determine if the anticipated benefits outweigh the costs.
Keep up the good work and may the Lord bless you richly, Donald Stier
Thanks for the very interesting information – I look forward with great anticipation to the next session. Thank you
Very interesting. Too bad we can’t get our elected leaders to bite the bullet and understand. Critical to know where we now stand in the various cycles and what’s next.
Would hope you will use the information to advise in the Safe Money Report.
Excellent information. Definately interested in hearing more about these cycles and a practical application of how to use them. Will attend next weeks’ presentation if invited. Thanks, Dave
Knowing the timing of turns (short, immed, long term) wiill be important to surviving the next 10 years. The price of the turns doesn’t matter.
Please include for phase 2 a timing alnalysis based on “The great Bust Ahead”. . . it projects ahead to 2025.
Thanks for all your efforts on my behalf Martin.
Interesting, but not sure if it relevant to me Martin – I’m 61 and my investment criteria is firstly capital protection. This means I am buying non-cyclical stocks (which are low as the crowd seems to be piling into cyclical) with steady dividends. The key risk is if even they are hit over the next three years. Interestingly I followed the same approach during the technology bust in 2000/01 – and it worked – - – .
The perspective of long term cycles (e.g., markets down until 2012) is relevant to personal as well as financial planning. The daily “reasons” for current volatility are amusing at best and useless at worst.
Dear Martin,
It was a nice presentation. We heard a lot about history but we did not hear about the specific predictions for today. I totall understand that historical discussions were important to establish credibility but if the research foundation is so acurate with its predictions, they must make a call now for the next 6 months so that we see value in the research and the model.
Thanks
Rahul
Impressive presentation and I’ll look forward to learning how we might make use of it going forward. I gather the cycles are based on historical data and are purely empirical. Is there any understandable explanatory theory for those cycles? If there is, that might be nice to hear about in the next presentation. Also, perhaps some understandable explanation about how the cycles are determined for different phenomena, including different investments down to individual stocks having different cycles.
Thanks.
It was interesting but I’m not sure yet how it will help me. I had my money invested thru American Funds but lost about 20-25 thousand. I now have it in a money market making no interest because I’m 65 and my financial advisors says you will live 20 more years so just take 5% out once a year and never look at whether it’s up or down til the next year. That may be good advise, but I’m not convinced that theres a better way. I have no experience in these matters. Can you help me make a differenent decision. Hope so. Thank you.
The presentation was very interesting and useful. I have been well aware of the cycle system but find it quite time consuming to put to use.
interesting!
This was the best yet. It was almost too good because nothing really works without FAIL. And that situation was handled well by Larry and the foundation guy – but I think some people may not have really listened at that critical point………..because they didn’t want to, or weren’t “able” to. Looking forward to Part 2 and thanks for letting us view it again at our convenience – much appreciated.
How can you have a lower stock market with a roaring inflation?
I am hearing a contradictory message when I hear that the market is going to plumet down any minute, and we are entering a time of inflation. Please explain.
I really need your answer.
Margaret Miller
The show was right on the money. We are not a very complex people, even though we tend to think so. We have a pattern that I have followed & the crash was just as I thought it would be. Everyone laughed @ me when I bought in 1992 & then SOLD in 2005. I DO THINK THIS deep recession(,DEPRESSION) IS GOING TO BE DEVASTING BECAUSE their are a lot more intangibles involved. Socialism (COMMUNISM) is showing its ugly head & this will cause a real problem. We also have NO leadership & the moral decay is also playing a part. It shows in the Congress & everywhere. It is very depressing to look at. This is Germany 1939. Thank You, Jim
Dear Martin,
It was certainly a good presentation but I prefer the Prechter approach which uses Elliott waves. They are more short term oriented.
Learned so much. I had never thought about the study of cycles. Am going to have to find out more about the study.
Since this is a short time study, what will be available so that a person researching a particular stock cycle, can get to the info they need? Where can you find info on further study on the subject? Us old folks need to have something that they can refer back to.
Very interesting information. I doubt that the average investor has ever given this a second thought when working out their investment program. Excellent webinar. Thank you!
I enjoyed the presentation. You guys are real pros. I have experienced many cycles in my life time. Fear and greed are still the big motivators. Doesn’t one’s particular goals and time horizon also bear on when to buy and sell? Thanks for the opportunity.
Thank you Martin, Larry and Richard, for your important and eye-opening overview of how cyclical patterns seem to be endemic to the rise and fall of our economic life. I am always deeply grateful if I can “see” the structural processes that underpin what appears to be otherwise an unpredictable dynamic shifting of transient forces that impose themselves on our lives.
The implications are obvious on many levels. For one thing our “normal” paradigm of cause-and-effect must be questioned and perhaps even rejected as being too simplistic… this information suggests that it may not matter who is “controlling” the architectural rigging of our economic model. The ebb and flow of these “built-in” cycles are going to impose themselves on our lives and we ignore them at our own peril. Obviously there is an intelligence at work in the universe and our lives that has its own order… an order we must learn to acknowledge and understand.
I am looking forward to part 2. Thanks Martin and Larry for making all of us aware of this phenomena to help to raise our understanding of what the normally “hidden” dynamics are that shape our lives actually looks like.
Warmest Regards ~ Richard Waxberg
I had no idea such data was available. Thank-you for bringing it forward.
20 year cyclic charts are old hat but where can I get them these days? Currencies in particular interest me.
Martin,
Thank you for wanting to share this valuable info – i’m excited about part II.
God bless you and yours.
Regards,
Al
Martin,
This was an interesting presentation with a good historical prospective. I am looking forward to next week.
Archie
This would be a great tool that I would use as long as your intension for us to be able to use it is not at a high cost. I subcribe to your money and markets colum, and to Larrys real weath report. I can’t afford any other subcriptions. If there is going to be a charge for this information, then I’ll just have to wait for Larrys advise in his news letters. General DOW and S&P cycles would be a great benifit, short and long term. Also gold and Financials, which I also track.
Part 1 was great!!!
One thing that I would like to see in part 2 is an explaination of exact how to get buy and sell signals on stocks. It would be great if I could just enter in the ticker that I am thinking about investing in and the system would just tell me to ‘buy’ or ’sell’.
Hello Sirs,
The summary of market timing ideas was excellently presented however the reasons behind different short term cycles of different companies was not explained sufficiently for viewers to appreciate the manner in which these cycles were identified and confirmed.
The general comment that in nature many things (most things) occcur in cycles is insufficiently connected to the stock market to be convincing rationale for the timing cycle approach. The hits and misses of particular low and how points for buy and selling of stocks was not clearly elucidated by reference to overall results over a selected time period. The relative significant effect of “other” variables (other than timing cycles) on the results was also not made clear.
In all, however, it was a most fascinating presentation and one which piqued my curiosity greatly to understand further how psychological and the nature of markets work to great gains and losses in the largest casino there is…
Aengus
Martin,
Thank you for a great program. Very interesting, I have heard of cycles before but this is the best I have seen/heard on it. I am really looking forward to next week as knowledge on this will help anyone be a better, more successful investor.
Thanks again and best regards,
Wayne
Dear Martin,
indeed, many thanks for your enjoyable part one briefing on cycles, and I look forward to enjoying the part two briefing next week.
In your post presentation e-mail you ask the question:
Can you see how incorporating the Foundation’s work in your investment timing decisions could help you go for greater, more consistent profits both now and when this bear market finally ends?
I have been a watcher of cycles for several decades, and have always used them as part of my research into most things that I study, which includes investment research. For people unfamiliar with cyclical temporal patterns, I imagine that any investor who is reasonably conscientious would benefit from awareness of both what cycles are active and where in the relevant cycle, or cycles, we are at a given moment. This is for the short term leading up to what looks like a total global collapse.
Your second question can’t really be answered because most of the indicators indicate that this bear market isn’t really going to end. The convergence of a number of cycles suggest what is effectively a total melt-down of the entire global financial marketplace, so the projected bottom for the current US bear out there in 2012 will probably be at a point where there really is no market as we currently know it any more.
What will replace our current systems is by no means clear at this remove, and it might be that there will no longer be national markets, only global ones, or only regional ones if other scenarios play out. My sense is that cycles with centuries of history will remain useful, but that in the new world post the near apocalyptic financial meltdown that looms on the horizon, there will be no useful short term cycles to watch until the new systems have been up and running for a while.
Well, you asked.
OQ – a non-American, primarily resident in Canada
Martin,
Great show. Thank you. Can’t wait until next week’s installment. My web feed did cut out at some points during the presentation. I might have missed it but if I didn’t, I would like to know what are the 5 indicators needed to analyze a stock. Richard touched on it but didn’t go into specifics.
Thank you,
Very nice job. Cycles (otherwise known as turning point work) definitely have a place in the investing world. It would appear that major turning points are happening as I write this and should continue through August. I think something MAJOR is going to happen by August. Of course, like 9/11, I don’t know what will happen specifically.
Thanks so much for all you do.
Fred
lots of great reliable info!!
Martin,
I appreciate the opportunity to participate in your webinar today and I intend to listen in next week for part II. I must say, however, that I am not convinced by the data presented today of the various cycles. At least, not convinced enough to base current investment decisions on it. I think you need to spend time next webinar focusing on how one would use the cycle information to assist in investment decisions.
I am a PhD in mathematics and I have done lots of analysis of past data and I can tell you that one can always find mathematical relationships that fit past data pretty well. However, going forward the models may not work well at all. That has been my experience.
Russell Richards
Dear Martin,
Quite timely and appears to be a very useful predictor for timing asset price movements. I am a little concerned about ‘Selection Bias’ and ‘Time Period Bias’ for the markets that were used in the presentation. I know you mentioned that you would cover additional markets in Part II. I am interested in knowing the track record of the system in predicting movements in international (specifically BRIC) and Illiquid markets over a period of past 60+ years.
Overall the content appears quite relevant and I want to thank you for taking the time for putting this together.
Thanks,
Suresh
Great help but I would love links to something in UK if that exists. Thanks Chris
Very interesting info. I’ve heard it said over and over that you can’t time the market. I knew cycles exit in some businesses. Didn’t know there was info on even individual stocks! I want to know where to get the historical info on these cycles, what the signals are and how to use them to avoid further losses in my portfolio. If the market can truly be timed, tell me how! Will you further educate us in your newsletter? Thanks for your presentation!
Dr. Weiss, I happened apon you and your company by chance last summer (2008). After following you and your fine staff for a few months I realized that I had found the “missing Piece” in my investment out look. Finally, after many heart breaking years I have found an outfit that tells the truth and despenses timely information. Today’s video was absolutely wonderful ! Timely, very informative and professionaly produced – I hung on every word! Your guest was wonderful ! My father inlaw is a physicist who spent his entire working life designing microwave communications for the military. He believes as do I that the cycles you talked about today are absolutely true – Thank You !!! Jim Doucette
Dear Sirs:
Very, very useful I use Bob Prechter’s Elliottwave service but as he himself admits, timing is the weakest area. So you have filled that very crucial gap.
Thank you
I’d just like to know that Martin and his team are being careful with Mr Armstrong.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong .
Sincerely,
Leslie
Because I have followed Robert Pretcher for many years, today’s interview with Richard
Mogey was the very best you have offered for my investment needs. I think Richard’s research would offer a huge back up to information Robert sends and would probably be much more specific. His research sounds like the final piece in the puzzle for me. I definitely will want to view part 2 next week. Thank you for all your hard work to keep us informed.
I believe in cycles, but this is the first time I heard of a 20 year cycle. I farm and I think this could be a usefull marketing tool as well as investing. It would be nice to have access to charts on all commodies, not just stocks and financials.
Good program. As a 40 yr student of cycles it finally paid off in 2003 when I dumped other stuff and bought gold and then the Village Idiot decided to invade an oil-producing nation because they had begun to sell oil in Euros. I knew the dollar was soon to be doomed and perhaps other currencies devalued as well.
I’m wondering how the Shanghai Cooperation Organization held in Yekaterinburg, Russia last week turned out? The USA was excluded.
Martin,
I very much benefited from today’s briefing. I understand now that timing is really different than other “technical” issues. I hope that at part 2 you will address what was meant by a “perfect storm” in 2012. Specifically what factors may come together at that time?
I also look forward to learning more specifically how cycles interact. How can we know if specific cycles really relate to each other? An example or more would be very helpful to illustrate how some interrelate and others don’t interrelate.
Very interesting information … can’t wait for part 2. The minute the webinar was over, I went to the foundation’s website to check things out. I want to sign up … I tried to sign up (for the complimentary membership) … the systems says I signed up … but there’s nowhere to go, nothing to see. I just keep getting directed to the “buy stuff” page and that’s not what I call complimentary.
I know this is not exaclty the right placed to say this … but … WOW you guys have a bunch of work to do on the foundation’s website before it’s ready for prime time. To make things worse, your 24 hour discount is an awfully short time to make a sound decision to spend hundreds if not a thousand or more dollars. Maybe I just need to wait for an email telling what to do next … I sure can’t tell what to do from the website’s information.
Martin,
I believe that the comprehension chould be improved by doing more with the charts as you spoke with more pointing. I am thinking that you did not want the charts left on the screen for too long, but personally I found it frustrating that it was not easier to follow the details.
I also thought the presentaion would have been more authentic if you had included a list of all the forecasts from a certain period, with the results. I am sure that there would have been some mistakes, it would have been useful to see them. If everything was 100% perfect, I would not have believed it. Also the exact text from Barron’s would have been helpful. If the model is a good as advertised, then the people at the non-profit should be investing as opposed to selling the model.
Basically I need more texture. If I don’t see any warts, then I’m doubtful.
Bill
I truly wonder if today’s material wasn’t “stretched out” to make it into two programs instead of just one. I also hope I am not wasting my two hours only to find out it was merely a pitch for another product to subscribe to.
Otherwise, I think obtaining the timing system for your use to help you recommend stocks, etc., is a helpful thing.
MARTIN/ALAN
THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHT PROVOKING PRESENTION
IF IT’S NOT TOO LATE, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF NEXT WEEK’S PRESENTION COULD INCLUDE SOME GRAPHICS AND DISCUSSION OF THE HISTORIC CYCLIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN INFLATION AND DEFLATION WITH SOME CYCLE BASED PROJECTIONS AS TO WHERE EACH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE THOUGHT TO BE HEADED IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE
THANK YOU
BILL P
Your brief was very informative and interesting.
Concern number one: I get hit at least 4 times a day with “great deals on how to recover” or make the next 10 bagger. I have tried some of the programs with essentially the same result. Most are losers and a few win. Bottom line, I don’t have a million dollar portfolio, so need to focus on a “few good investments” You base your entire program on historic cycles and give a few good examples of “passed” performance. So does everyone else. I know and don’t expect you to “forcast” the future. But do you plan to recommend 10, 50, 100 picks?? I need a more narrow field.
Concern number two: Will I need to be tied to the stock ticker or can I have a life??
Number three: How much training will this take? Are there instruction books/dvd/etc?
V/R
Hal
Awesome theory. I’m looking forward to next week.
An excellent discussion on the past and possibly the coming events of the stock market. I’m sure that you have already come up with or designed a computer generated platform using the graphs and charts that you have displayed today and are possibly in the process of testing same. I look foward to your next program on the 30th and your comments. Martin in San Diego
I thoroughly enjoyed the presentation today and am looking forward to next week for Part 2. I have always heard that you can’t time the market, but it seems that if you have enough facts, you can make a pretty good guess. Thanks for all you do to explain finance to all of us.
Really looking forward to next week. And shades of Nikolai Kondretiev! Though a little later than his 45-60 years it’s looking like we’re in a serious depression but don’t know it yet? Hope the foundation’s outlook addresses it next week.
Dr. Weiss,
I have a great deal of respect for you and Larry Edelson so the fact that both of you find this approach sufficiently credible to present it assuages my skepticism significantly. But under many another circumstance that little voice in my head that keeps saying “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!” would be even louder!
I’m certainly interested enough – and hopeful enough – to want to hear more, but am mindful of another saying: “The proof of the pudding is in the eating.”
Martin,
I found your presentation very interesting. You ask if I think the foundation’s material will be helpful. I don’t know – I haven’t seen anything but the few charts you showed, which were historical. I didn’t see anyuthing that would show a current top or bottom.
I have registered for next week’s part 2. But there is a possibility that I may not be able to get to amy computer until 2PM. I hope hou will make the presentation available fror 48 hrs. like you did today.
Thanks.
Bob Dorfman
I thought today’s presentation was excellent and thought provoking. This is a great tool to use to understand the direction in which the economy is headed. For trading shares in a specific stock it may need more refining to accurately predict which direction they are headed.
Interesting program. Want to see how this historical info can translate into “timing” the market. The government is manipulating so many things now that I am not 100% conviced that you will get things lining up now as in the past.
It is clear that many people are unaware of the vast work on cycles that is out there and how to put it to use. There are lots of great investment letters available that already use cycles – e.g., Elliottwave and The Rhodes Report. Not to mention that Schumpeter, Kondratieff, and others researched cycles in addition to the Foundation. How interesting that Weiss Research just acquired the rights to the Foundation’s data set. In order to avoid this process you are using from turning into an infomercial, you need to concisely spell out the advantages of your system and how you can help people use it. I probably won’t attend the next webinar-too long for the data given. I know you’ll send me a summary via email anyway. I earnestly hope that you can deliver something that your audience can use to make good profits in the years ahead.
Hi Martin:
I personally thought today’s presentation was very interesting. I can see that when combined with other methodologies one could come out a winner more times than not. But how to combine it all? You and your team certainly a more global perspective on things as you all do this type of thing every day. Can you show us a combined chart? ie that which includes the sine wave as well as other info. to show winners and/or others to show the losers. I think that your are doing a great job, by the way. Keep it up!
Best, Larry
I knew there was a 60 year cycle, and that this was the “bad one”. The 20 year cycle was unknown to me. The fact that there is a non-profit group studying these cycles since the ’30s, with good results, and the general public knows nothing of this, is very sad! A detailed copy at regular intervals should be sent to the President, every cabinet member and every member of Congress. How much would that cost? A very small amount, compared to what the country is going through now!
THANK YOU, Dr. Weiss, for bringing this information out now, and JUST MAYBE someone in Washington will see it.
I was surprised to learn of the cycles research and the timing factor. I am eager to hear next weeks discussion.
I wish the video would play. I chatted with ‘derek’ about my problems and he set up a link, different from the one you have in your login and email messages for the event. It worked, I think, but it disappeared when I closed the non-functioning link. Why not use Youtube technology with appropriate security features? You guys run the only video feeds that give me problems even when my computer passes requirements test.
Very interesting. We may need assistance following the timing. How far forward do they go with the cycles? 5,10,15,20 years? I studied relative strenght trends and found that they ran in 13 week cycles. Hot for 13 weeks then a hold pattern followed by another forward charge for 13 weeks until they peak. How often do you get a false cycle?
This particular presentation is so important to me personally since I have used other methods to determine when to buy or sell a stock, ETF or mutual fund. As a stock market investor for the last 20 plus years, the present economic climate is probably the most challenging I’ve seen in that period of time. I am very much interested in the “cycle” concept of investing and feel I can certainly use it in my decisions. I am looking forward to next Tuesday’s presentation.
The presentation was too long on history, and too short on actual data that can be used in timing the market. Need more specifics rather than generalities. An example would be xyz stock is expected to top out at certain cyclial point (day, week, or month) or visa versa bottoming out. Needs to cut to the chase. Perhaps Part 2 will address this. However, thanks for the information provided how the cycles are historically parallel. Good work!
This confirmed my feeling that ” WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND” We now have to pay for the party. Bill
Very enlightrning. I just wish that I had access to this information when I had more money to invest. I got hammered in the Tech meltdown and again in this latest bear…
I do not have a large portfolio ( most in cash right now ). I have been hesitant to jump back in as I am retired and need my money to last a while. I would like it to grow also….
What would you recommend as the smallest amount of investable cash to take advantage of your service??
Sincerely,
William ( Bill ) Timpano
Thanks for the presentation,
Interesting. I’m interested in next weeks presentation. I wonder what ability the cyclic charts have on ETFs that are relatively new in existence, such as SKF, SRS, and FXP. Just seems like its more of an amorphus entity to place a cycle to with such a short life span thus far.
Michael C. Schieber
ROGER DAVIS Sr
I found this to be a huge eye opener as the history of all this was to say the least was unknown to me. I now have a much better knowledge base to think from. I found the people
of you entire staff not only today’s to be very tuned in and thanks to them all I am quite ready for the second phase. Sincerly ROGER
M, thank you for your leadership in identifying a need in investing. The presentation was very informative and I await the next presentation. J
Larry’s recent Real Money letter went into this topic in much more detail – even as a non-specialist I am aware of the Kondratieff cycle (believe we are now entering K ‘winter’), cycles based on demographics (the pioneering and highly accurate work of HS Dent), the very consistent Presidential cycle (first 2 yrs of term down, last two up), the seasonal cycle (Aug-Oct weak) and the monthly cycle (final 2 days and first 2 days of each month strong). The webcast mentioned none of these, or others in Larry’s letter. I would have expected graphs showing the individual underlying cycles, and then overlaying them to show how the composite cycle that the Foundation publishes is generated. So all in all I was disappointed and learned nothing new.
Dick.Stanford
Very interesting!!! I am sure Larry and other program advisors in the the Weiss team will be using this advice in future recomendations . You have always been good future insite and this could make even better! I have been a subscriber since your dad wrote Safe Money Report and foresight has always been great.
Larry’s June, Real Wealth Report was away foreward on expectations an probably had some of Richard’s views combined with his to come to the conclusions expressed.
I truly enjoyed the conference, one of my favorite sayings to people is, “everything goes in cycles”, which I believe. It get’s interesting though, on what to think when the Cycle or trend butts up aganist what’s going on in the real world. Can the cycle really predict when inflation will come when there are so many different things going on from the money supply, to consumer spending, to China, etc that affect it. I do believe however in cycles, but see where a person might need to look at a combination of factors before investing bassed on them.
I know price hasn’t been discussed, but my one concern over this is that the price may end up being too high for most people to really take advantage of. It gets easier to pay higher costs after you’ve experiences some success, but after losing so much of one’s 401k and investments, it’s a true leap of faith to pay much to jump into an unproven (at least for you…) methodology. Scoring a nice hit on gold, oil, or some other investment makes the thought process a lot easier, until that point though, it’s still, like you’ve said, time to hang onto as much cash as possible.
This appears to be an important timing indicator that could prove of value at major turning points in the market. To be useful, however, it would need to be specific with recommendations as to sectors, stocks, ETFs, etc. that would profit from the upcoming trend. To benefit very many people, this information would need to be available at a reasonable price. And I wonder how useful it would be in a directionless market.
Having placed Dewey’s book in my library several decades ago, I am extremely pleased to learn of the foundation’s website and ongoing work. Weiss Research shows great discernment in teaching and using the knowledge of cycles. Thank you immensely for the presentations.
David J. Gaines
Today you touched on the main item for investing. The componding of money is in direct relation to the investment cycle. Mis-timming an investment eliminates most of the previous work.
A common belief is markets can not be timed. Sailors figures out the tides, ‘timing’. Even Shakespear made reference to the ‘tides in mans affairs’. If you can help us combine several dimensions into one place, timing, fundamentals, technical efforts, then you will have provided the best service I could think of. I see all the pieces around, but nowhere all in one service.
I am working the Elliott Waves into this mix as well. It is amazing how everything seems to dovetail.
I am looking forward to the next session.
Regards.
Very interesting and well presenteed,
This was very interesting. But I would be interested in seeing how you use the cycles to make buying decisions. If Larry has been using this service for 30 years, doesn’t that mean he already has had the benefit of this same expertise? Also, with so many investment options available through Weiss and Uncommon Wisdom, how do you suggest an investor diversify their portfolio among them? I have been in cash for two years, and would like to make a few dollars before the bottom, especially if it is 2012.
Very interesting !
I very much enjoyed it. It makes sense. I am a neophyte when it comes to investing, and am uncertain about how I can make money investing after my experience with my 401k. I like the rational, simply approach. Now I need to continue my learning.
Thank you Martin for helping solve the mystery, that very few believe in. I once did, but here is what happened:
I once talked to the at one time Danish Prime Minister in a plane to France and we discussed the Kondratiev cycle for want of better, and also shorter cycles and he was of the opinion, that the financial cycles were more than less a game of psychology and herd reaction. Clever guy Mr Auken, who was quite up on cycles. My compliment to him. But…
We know women have cycles influenced by the moon or what? and men too (Motorcycles or Mars?), so the 60 year cycle you’re referring to is, if I’m correct, the Kondratiev cycle.
I didn’t see the Kondratiev cycle fit in, following the two previous “Kondratiev cycles, It was eminent and should have been visible, so I lost my belief, but now I’m more than willing to take a hard look at it again. Also the 20 year cycle, and if I remember correctly, a 4 and 1/2 year business cycle.
Also the Apple 11 week cycle surprised me. Funny enough: I had invested 100.000 dollars in Apple, 14 days before Mr Gates fired up under Apple in 1997. Had I sold two days later, I would have gained $50.000 before tax, but I let it run, so I only made 15.000 dollars as I let about a week go. I believe I was just too greedy and I believed Apple shares were unfairly so far behind the rest of the industry, so it just had to come back, which was correct over the long haul, although certainly not over the short period.
Again before taxes. I have to learn to ride the Sunamies, because they never last. They are scewed on the news, that all. We can always go back and invest if we are proven wrong, Right?
Dear Martin,
The session today was just great. The more info that we are given, the easier it is for us to understand and have confidence in Larry’s and your whole groups idea’s for investing. I need to read more on cycles and the timing of them. I look forward to your next session. Thank you, David
It is always impressive to see how your company is trying to be at the forefront of small investors needs. It would be a valuable service to have a market watch newsletter or subscription service with accurate entry and exit signals for those who want to do trading as well as those who want to know when we have hit the bottom so they can stay in and go long. A company like vectovest and some others try to do market timing and some are accurate but not consistently so. If you could do something accurate and consistent it would be useful.
The video presentation was very helpful and informative. I will certainly incorporate the knowledge gained in my investment efforts. I look forward to part 2.
I particularly thought detailed examples were helpful to concretize the general concepts. Showing the application to specific cases confirmed for me the applicability of to my own investment strategies.
I thought that Part One of “Solving the Timing Mystery” was excellent!! I would like to see (as time allows ) charts of the cycles of the different stocks and /or sectors you will be discussing in PartTtwo, put on your screen for us to see as you talk about them.
Thank you, Martin, for bringing us this very helpful information to our attention.
Respectfully, J.M.
Thank you for enlightening me to an objective analysis of factors to consiber in better timing of t he markets.As a investor with no academic or professional knowledge of such matters I have only to rely on my own intuition based on my own observations and experiences with luck,of course!
I think what I found to be missing in your expose was 1) no consideration was given to whether the key decision makers have correctly understood the lessons from the past-eg Bernanke claims to be an expert as to how to deal with a depression but his policies only seem to delay the day of reckoning as predicted in your cycle with a risk of delivering a catastrophe of truly biblical proportions but much later timing wise! 2)Your analysis can also be hijacked by experts like Alan Greenspan whose only concern seems to have been to deliberately keeping monetyary policies inexplicaby ultra loose for too long and that also probaly delayed the onset of a depression until he can absolve himself of any responsibility.3) Finally,taking your analogy of existence of cycles in nature it must be appreciated at a fundamental level it simply is not possible even in nature to determine a postion of sub-atomic particles accurately due to Heisenberg’s oncertainty principle i.e.the tools simply do not exist for us to predict anythig with certainty!
Nevertheless I thoroughly enjoyed this session and certainly look foward to watching the Part 2 next tuesday.
Kind regards
I have believed in cycles for a long time. But my knowledge of different cycles is too limited to take advantage of them in most areas in which I invest. So I’m looking forward to augmenting my knowledge, understanding and arsenal to greatly enhance my trading and investing. Thanks much!
Martin
I want to thank you a wonderful and informative webinar.
A long while back I subscribed to your newsletter when your Dad was still part of the team. You suggested back then to use Treasury bills as a safe heaven for our funds. During the last downturn I only lost 2% of my portfolio due to that excellent advice years ago.
I was really taken back by the prediction of a “Perfect Storm” in 2012. Many Christian and Jewish modern prophets have as been told by God of the coming “Perfect Storm.” One said that all he heard about this was “The woes of 2012.”
God’s Blessings & Joy Unspeakable!
Doug Pessoni
Thanks you, Martin! As a big believer in cycles (political, social, etc), I am very interested to see Part II and learn how to incorporate the use of financial cycles in order to improve my bottom line.
The, “Solving the Timing Mystery”, Presentation was wonderfull.
Thank you very much.
Dear Martin & Co.
Thank you for an interesting, thoughtprovoking,methodology for timing based on cyclical movement of markets/sectors/individual equities! It is surprising to see the fit. It takes a lot of research and number crunching to be able to crystalize the cycles. Therefore the addition of the research organization should give us investors a lot to look forward to — not the same ol’ same ol’ media information. What would you say the accuracy of the cycle is and what % does the cycle conform to the buy or sell indication.
Looking forward to part II. E G Eigenfeld
Outstanding presentation of material and concepts that I never knew existed. At some point, I hope to be able to use these procedures in all financial decisions.
WOW, Great stuff. I think you are on the money with this cycles.
Loved it! Makes more sense than most reports I read. I can see where it could be a very useful tool in calculating when to get in and when to get out o the market.
Cudos! Thank you for the good work and congrats on bringing Richard Mogey on board.
Dolores
Great presentation. I have played what we called”rolling stocks”, where we could count on their rise and fall every few months, but had no idea that there is a foundation that studies and publishes cycles on a variety of things. As for suggestions on Part 2, I’m in a better position to be a student than an advisor. Too bad all the geniuses on Wall Street who expressed surprise at the collapse also had not heard of the Foundation or Mr. Mogey’s prediction in 2004.
I have been trading with my own direct trading account for three years and have had a broker before that in an off & one basis for 20 years . I ‘ve noticed , Gold Corp , eg. in particular moves with the price of gold in a simmilar cycle . I was very interestd to see the relationship with your cycles and the DOW , and gold shares . So, if one can see how the cycles behave as was pointed out in Larry’s comments and as he has been referring to for some time, one could put that with the behavior in a stock when looking at RSI and MACD on a chart .My account varies above $CDN 100K , so it is not large , but I can see you will be offering a service at a price that might be out of my range . I have been a subscriber of various Weiss programs for over ten years and have found that the information as being reliable and thorough. Larry’s Real Wealth Report is affordable , has good material , without the BS . So I am able to relate to what Larry and what you Martin & your contributors supply in the reports . I look forward to Part 2.
I loved the presentation of cycles which we simply need to realize represent a very basic universal law — just like gravity — that applies to all “walks of life.” I think that Weiss’ access to the Foundation’s database is a huge plus to investors and your guidance to all of us.
Though I took plenty of notes from today’s presentation, I hope that Part II next week will focus more on what investors need to do to prepare for the inevitable “perfect storm” that presumably will begin in a few months or at the end of this year. Not wanting to work all my life till I drop, I need to establish safeguards for my current investments.
I look forward to next week’s presentation!
-Marianne
Great job and thanks for all your
Very enlightening! I look forward to next week! I think you made the right move in combining your company with Mr.Mogey’s Foundation information! I know all will go well. Thank U!
You guys are onto something HUGE, I am so happy to have listened to your presentation. I can hardly wait for the…rest of the story!!!
I am new to the stock market and don’t know a thing about it, except that I want to learn as much as I can BEFORE I jump into it, especially in this economy. I found today’s discussion very enlightening and understandable. I believe keeping an eye on cycles is an important key to making well informed and well timed decisions in trading. I appreciate you designing your training to include beginners as well as those who are very informed and experienced in the stock market. Part 2 I’m hoping will assist me in targeting which markets to enter.
I appreciated your webcast, but frankly, I learned practically nothing new, as I am already well aware of the cycles in everything that surrounds us.
Unfortunately, I cannot be present for your next webcast, as I have other commitments. The Monday was an excellent day for me…
Thank you anyway.
Dita Brown
Victoria, BC, Canada.
Thank You, Mr. Weiss
Today gave me a better understanding how the market works in cycles just like everything else. I am a little green on investing but this helped me a lot.
I was surprised to find it so interesting, as I’ve listened thru a lot of these discussions. I’m receiving it in Mexico, so I had a bit of trouble with the video and the sound, but on the whole it made me look forward to your offerings re market cycles and timing. You often wring your hands and shout Fire!, but your track record is impressive nonetheless; I’ve followed you for years now, and my brother, too. Good discussion…
Martin, Great briefing on such an important subject of cycles and how this research can be used to an ivestors advantage in the stock market. I look forward to next week’s presentation. On Larry’s chart showing the cumulative gain on Apple if profits were reinvested, the gain appears too low to me. Shouldn’t it be closer to the other two stocks. I also found Larry’s May issue of Real Wealth dealing with cycles to be very informative.
A brilliant presentation.
So the Market is not quite “the happening” that I had come to believe it to be.
Look forward to the next instalment.
I can’t wait for Part 2 to explain specific ways to profit from this very new info. I really appreciate ALL the good information you provide to investors to help us in these very difficult times.
I thought Part 1 was potentially very useful! Thank you!! Timing of intemediate bottoms – of the current decline/correction and start of the year-end rally you mentioned, for example would be ver convincing confirmations of the value of the service you are going to offer if they turn out to be reasonably accurate. Thank you again – looking forward to Part 2!
Thanks for the insights. I really need them. I have 12 funds all paying excellent dividends but the dividends are less than my principle losses. It scares me.
Hi:
Enjoyed your part 1. Other than to forecast general trends in markets, it would be very helpful to show how this forecasting applies to detailed investing. That`s where the rubber hits the road in making profitable investmemts. I hope this will be covered in the next segments knowing that they are not bullet proof.
Thanks
The presentation was excellent. It re-affirmed another group’s work that I’ve been a part of, Wells Wilder’s “Delta Phenomenon” material. I’ve used the cycle-studies in studying the commodities markets. Trying to learn everything I can! Have a very small personal investment budget, and receive income from 2 family trusts whose investments cannot be altered. I’m hoping to utilize your info to try and protect (offset future loss) some of the dollar value in the fixed trusts. Thank you for sharing your wisdom……
I thought Part 1 was potentially very useful! Thank you!! Timing of intemediate bottoms – of the current decline/correction and start of the year-end rally you mentioned, for example would be very useful and would be convincing confirmations of the value of the service you are going to offer if they turn out to be reasonably accurate. Thank you again – looking forward to Part 2!
My wife and I found it very interesting. Both of us are retired and neither one of us is actively in the market but I could see how understanding the cycles of big down-turns could help in preparing those to ride out the “storm” even if they don’t invest. When the stocks fall, the effect is far-reaching, in many aspects of life where buying, selling and employment depends upon the state of the economy (which in turn is reflected in the stock market). The question was asked why few had seen this was coming in either the great depression or now but I submit that it was seen and actually utilized to the advantage by those who desire to see economic chaos in this world to move us closer to globalism.
Part one confirms some longstanding beliefs in cycles.
Most fascinating was the short term cycles on particular stocks, Apple, Aeropsotle & Green Mountain Coffee.
Missing was an offer to join the community.
How about a link, at the end of the presentation, to an introductrory special for services?
I need a long term, mid term and short term analysis of where we are at in the cycles of:
real estate in the US (particularly residential),
any foreign real estate that is running contrary to the US,
US dollar (and what foreign currencies are evaluated in the analysis),
Long-term US interest rates,
Short-term US interest rates,
US stock market,
Any foreign stock markets that are running contrary to the US stock market,
Gold,
OIL (this is one of my main interests right now),
Agricultural commodities, and
any other markets that look like interesting opportunities.
One of the major things I did not like about the presentation was most of it was simulated performance results. My experience is that simulated results are typically not worthwhile for projecting how something will perform. I need to see how much the person actually made in real trading results (like your million dollar contrarian fund shows the actual brokerage account and its results). Profitable trades and losing trades also need to be disclosed on the actual results as well as the average profit and loss.
Second, the “cycles” in some of the charts actually do not track very well. My conclusion is that the “cycles” are fitted as well as possible but that the reality is that there is not a true 20 year cycle as the researcher would want everyone to believe. It probably is an error metric and the 20 year cycle should be qualified with a + or – period of 17 months for example to show its statistical error or variance.
Cycle inversion where the top is really a bottom and vice versa seems laughable to me. This very concept seems to totally contradict the researcher’s premise that there are cycles in the first place. Perhaps you can shed some light on this contradiction.
Despite my criticisms, cycles do seem to provide a path for the big picture of investing which is very significant for any investor.
I will be interested to see the tools that you use to refine the investing.
You mentioned that wars did not seem to affect certain cycles. Are there other major events that would seem to affect the cycles that in the end do not affect them? Has there been a pattern of major interactions between certain cycles? For example, the US dollar, the US stock market and short and long term US interest rates?
Thank you for the fascinating presentation.
Thank you Martin, Larry & Richard,
ONE of my “BEST DECISIONS” in my 57 year career was to subscribe to your
“Safe Money Report” and “Money and Markets”.
WOW! ! ! What a REVELATION! ! !
I hope that I will find a way to apply this tool to Mutual Fund Investing “getting to SAFETY” in time for the end of 2009 and the predicted cataclysmic event of 2012.
Regards,
Dunstan L. Briggs
Thanks, Martin, for today’s program and its continuation next week. It was very informative. Actually, I already do some timing with tools I’ve developed in Excel the past fifteen years or so. But, some of Richard Mogey’s comments reminded me of a tool I’ve wanted to develop for a number of years. It’s a tracking tool for short-term cycles. I’ve known the math for it since 1964, when I worked for NASA-Houston. It’s amazing how so much of the math in vehicle tracking also applies to markets. Thanks, again. – John P.
Very interesting & informative… can’t wait to learn more on how to apply it to everyday market action & real life. Fred
My first financial advisor said, “Never try to time the market!” That never rang true to me. Indeed, I’ve made money by “riding the ripples” in a few stocks I’ve watched closely with mechanical buy/sell targets. I’ve thought of it as milking a cow; many small trades with little risk. I would be concerned about trading based on cycles alone, but Larry’s combination of cycles with fundamentals and technical indicators sounds like a winning combination to me. Good that Weiss Research acquired the rights to the Foundation’s data. Kudos!
Thank you very much for today’s webinar! It was very informative. I have also heard of cyclical analysis from Harry S. Dent. I find it very fascinating. There were 2 charts shown of the S&P 500 (future). One shows the market dropping in July/Aug 2009 while the other shows the market continuing higher.
What would be very helpful in next week’s webinar is more specific future predictions for the Dow/S&P, the dollar, Gold & Oil.
Thank you again. I very much appreciate all the data & information provided by the entire Weiss team and am looking forward to part 2!!
Ken
The clearest explanation I ever heard/read on cycles,stock market,etc.Eagerly awaiting next Tues. presentation.
Very helpful to me since i am intereseted in using cycles for trading
Thank you for this wonderful presentation about cycles.it will be beneficial to new traders like me to know when to get in and out.I have only a tiny account so would not be able to invest like the big rollers.
As a matter of fact I attended a lecture and the predictions were similar.Some of the young people know about the horoscope,and were able to check if the predictions were correct.So the fall will be an interesting time .The bear will prevail,so you were right all along Martin. Thank you again
Dear Martin: 50 years ago I became fascinated with cycles. After a brief attempt to find out more I became frustrated with the lack of “cycle” connections (I don’t believe I had a computer at the time). I am a firm believer in the cycles of life, and I believe that incorporating cycles into your (our) analysis is extremely important and will be beneficial for all.
FOUND TODAYS REPORT EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE–WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND NEXT TUESDAY AS I AM LEAVING ON A 15 DAY TOUR OF EUROPE WITH MY DAUGHTER. I HOPE THERE IS A WAY TO CATCH UP WHEN I RETURN. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU REGARDING THIS. HOLLY H. DAVIS
Thank you for the excellent presentation today. A much better understanding of incorporating Cycles —short, intermediate and long term as they impact different segments and industries would be very helpful. Can a marketing timing system be used to support the cyclical data. Great show:
regards, Orville
Very informative and interesting. Wish new about this before last Sept.
Along with the cycle data, the time horizons should be factored into each buy sell decision.
Thinking about a 20 year cycle when the peak and trough can be +/- 3-5years can be hard to accept when a 20% loss requires a much larger gain to recover from.
Do you agree that using the data from 20 year cycles can’t provide much guidance when you plan to retire in 20 years?
That leaves your analysis only applicable to the 45 and younger.
Thank you so much for allowing me to attend your webinars.I always benefit from listening to the commentary and observing the graphs.Session #1 on “timing”was exceptional with the explanation on cycles.I am definitely looking forward to the next session.
Martin,
In all my years of investing, I have never found anyone who cares so much about the welfare and safety of his member/clients as you. My God continue to prosper and bless you so you can guide us through these troubled times. Thanks so much.
Steve
Dear Martin,
Thanks ever so much for the briefing this morning.I am a small investor and living in Canada.It is important to know how the market moves.I am looking forward to next week when you and your people talk about the timing.Timing is so important,usually my timing is sometimes off and I don,t get the rightresults.So keep up the good work.
May God bless and keep you.
Dear Martin,
The briefing was not disappointing. It flowed smoothly and met or exceeded my expectations. I have no suggested improvements; you’re on the right track. Please continue. Thanks.
Irv
May I say “ditto” to all the positive comments I have read from those who have responded to Part I.
Thank you for the presentation. Well done and interesting. It brings to mind, W.D. Gann’s seasonal concept and also Elliott wave theory. The concepts of history repeating, and also that of cycles, seems to be a common thread in all these. My guess is that part 2 of the presentation will be even better then part 1.
Martin and Larry, that was very fascinating! I been made aware of something similar from reading the Trader’s Almanac. But not all cycles follow the calendar. It was made clear that you will be offering some type of product for us to consider. I hope that you will have a pricing structure that will allow the small investor who only has an account size of $5,000-10,000 to participate to some degree. Either a couple levels of service and/or monthly payment option as opposed to an annual lump sum. Or give us a choice to buy info on one market, sector, or individual equity – similar to what you used to do with the individual Weiss Ratings reports. That will give many of us who follow your newsletters to leg-in and increase our wealth so we can afford a more premium service if we so desire. Thank you again for such an enlightening webinar. I look forward to Part 2.
As an overview this was good. But more specifics are needed. How do you actually do it? Where can I get this information? How do I read the charts and translate into action? I really can’t fairly judge until I see the second part, so…
I enjoyed today’s part one and can certainly see value in the foundation’s cycles for trading and exit strategies. I am a geologist and a gold bug. I hope you will cover the near, medium and longer term outlook for precious metals and their stocks in part two, especially in relation to, or as opposed to the outlook for continued decline of the dollar and the projected continuation of the main stream stock market rally until year’s end, followed by the next decline. Gold the metal held up better than anything other than treasuries in the recent sell off, though gold stocks to some degree took it on the chin along with other issues. Gold bug commentators claim gold stocks were only hurt because they were among the few profitable investments people could dump to raise cash and in a big selloff they will ultimately pull away and rise along with the metal. Perhaps you can expand a bit on the outlook for the dollar between now and 2013 when the foundation sees the dollar finally stabilizing. Is the current dollar rally only a short lived counter trend which will soon fizzle? Will we not ultimately see a bunch of price inflation ( monetary decline) in the mess between now and when the dollar finally stabilizes at what I feel will have to be a much lower level, justifying the mantra to buy and hold “things”? I am raising cash but I feel I should hold precious metals against the destruction of our currency too. With a stable dollar as in 1930 it would be simple to just hold cash as we slip into the deflationary black hole and enjoy the lower prices later, but in the present era I don’t trust cash to hold its purchasing power.
Thanks for part one. I have registered for part two but may not be able to view it at the regular time, so I hope you will keep it on line for a few days for people in my situation.
your program was excellent. i am looking forward to hearing more.
While I enjoyed the presentation, it came across as an infomercial. At the very least, the self-congratulatory tone was a bit much. I realize this is part 1 and there is at least a part 2 coming, but I was really hoping for some explanation wrt the amplitude of the waves used. I know you can fit ANY data stream with an open ended number curves of arbitrary frequency and amplitude.
Why this frequency or that amplitude for each curve? Show WHY 20 and 60 year curves versus, say, 15 and 50 or 25 and 75 years. If the method relies on curve fitting to find, OK. But then how do you project and then predict?
It was said that the stock pic for peak was 3-4 weeks early, what it had been 3-4 weeks LATE? Not so impressive then, eh?
This reminds me of Biorythyms–the 70’s fad. Yes, the curves hit peak or through, you could get something useful, but there was nothing gained when the curves were intermediate–which was most of the time.
Blessings,
Brett
Dr Weiss:
I am so grateful to you for taking your time and using your money to help so many of us who neither have the tools or frankly the money to access what you are giving to us. And I am learning so much about economic facts and the financial system. I hope you will tell Larry Edelson that I appreciate his efforts as well. He has a fine mind and understanding of the markets all over the world. I can’t wait until part two and slowly I am positioning my holdings to the utmost safety for the coming years ahead. Without you I would still be deep in the throes of unexcelled grief. Unfortunately, I was one of the victims of the Stanford International Bank fiasco ; need I say more ,though it could have been alot worse for me than it was. Certainly others have lost millions. With your tools and know-how, alone as I am, I will and can recover to a semblence of what I inherited from my parents. I don’t understand alot of sophisticated trading methods but I don’t have to know those things if I can read and mirror the advice you give so freely to those of us who are surely becoming your devoted following. I had a fabulous college professor who said the best teaching was when one could take the complicated and make it simple. pf/dallas, tx
Martin – Enjoyed Part I immensely! But wish I’d known this 15 or 20 years ago. At my age (91) my iinvesting for profit over time, is over. To assist younger viewers for Part 2, Show how you determine the cycle for some specific stocks–and then, how to determine at what part of the present cycle is a particular stock?
Example: What is the cycle time for Chevron? If planning to buy or sell Chevron today, where is it in its current cycle?
Vern
Dear Martin,
The workshop today helped clarify 20 & 60 years cycles and provided some insight for future investing. I found Harry Dent’s book interesting, but found it too technical. I’m now consolidating my accounts so I’ll be ready to re-allocate my limited resources. The explanations on error metrics and cycle inversions were clearly presented and easily understodd. Having such information helps one avoid panic. I look forward to part 2 and hearing Richard Mogey, PhD, explain the pending “Cataclysmic Cycle”.
Thank You,
Sandy M.
martin and larry
awesome work!
bit different than elliott wave and bp% at stockcharts
how does it compare to tim wood at cyclesman!
thanks
mhb
We are so fortunate to have you preparing us for the unknown. Larry knows that without being told, a favorite son. Thanks for evereything. Martin, your Father would be so proud of you.
Martin
The presentation you made today is up to the standards of excellence of your many years of guiding us in safety and profitability. Thank you for your efforts.
Naturally, I’m looking forward to your new service. I’ll be there next week.
Thanks to your associates.
Looked like an info-commercial. Everybody knows there are cycles in all the markets.
Anybody can put a chart up that says the market will do this or that or already has.
Need more meat and potatoes to convince me you have anything of value.
Might check in next week to see?
The information was excellent and it should prove to be useful in overall planning for investment. I am just your average investor, by that I mean that I am not a trader. I have purchased your book and read it. As Larry mentioned, I am not trying to actually time the market. I am trying to use the information to insure that I am in the correct cycle.
Very interesting , but before giving myfinal opinion would like to see part2.
I would like to get your opinion on today´s market events and yor recos
Martin,
Awesome info. Learning about how cycles effect all aspects of our lives, in addition to the financial world, was very enlightening.
Thank you for the interesting information!
John
Interesting. I follow Elliot wave theory. You might cover why you think this might be better. Also I looked up the site and their market timing software and it mentioned that among the 20 or so inputs determining their signals Stohastics ,RSI and momentum indicators were included, which disappointed me since these are not new. If you can reassure us that this is indeed based soley on cycles that aren’t widely known or used, I would be more likely to look closer. Best of luck.
I thought todays presentation was informative. I am aware of the cycles in the stock market but I always seem to catch the end which isn’t a bad thing especially now with inverse ETF’s. I have been reading alot on gold and have recently bought Barrick Gold for a long term investment. If gold is truly on its way to 1200.00-1500.00 per ounce then I am eager to see part 2 of the presentation as it pertains to the cycle for gold. Keep up the good work!
Todays program was very interesting. I think it explains why your reports and Larry Edelson’s REAL WEALTH report differ so much in key areas. Needless to say that has been very confusing, at least to me. I wish that you and Mr. Edelson would expand on these differences.
Can’t wait until the next installment.
Thanks
I think the timing theory is good with other technical tools. Unfortunately the amplitude of the waves cannot be calculated, and cannot be used in future price movement. It is a good general tool to see the major trend, but not the volatility in the near future. Short term cycles are not dependable. Serious investors should pay attention to it, but don’t rely on it without other market indicators. SGJ
I really appreciated the cycle discussion today. After studying Hurst and Bressert and developing a working model – I can honestly say that “knowing which cycles are important and how to use them properly IS the basis for knowing when to enter a position in any market; while identifying key reversals in a larger timeframe to stay in the so-called trend.”
I would ask which dynamic technical indicators you feel best keep up with market behavior?
Dear Martin: Yes, thank you for a good web cast about timing our investments. What I would like to see are the tools so I could create my own cycles for a given investment (primarily stocks and ETFs). What I heard was to look for good capitalization in the stock, good relative strength, and consistent cycles. Also, knowing that not ALL stocks follow the major indexes this would mean a specific stock cycle could be very different from the major ups and downs in the general market. Would stocks with betas close to 1.00 work best? or does it matter.
And, what happens if your stock cycling strategy works too well? That is, what if a significant percentage of investors started to use it. Wouldn’t this by itself have an affect on stock prices? Maybe increase market volatility because more people are either selling or buying all at the same time.
Finally, Richard made the point that his research and investment results are theoretical. Some documented real life applications of his stock cycle strategy would be helpful. Maybe some investors who have used this strategy over the last several years and their documented gains (and losses).
Dear Martin,
I read all the previous comments and partly agree with Richard Waxberg 06.22.09 at 4:31 PM, who very articulately stated:
“Thank you Martin, Larry and Richard, for your important and eye-opening overview of how cyclical patterns seem to be endemic to the rise and fall of our economic life. I am always deeply grateful if I can “see” the structural processes that underpin what appears to be otherwise an unpredictable dynamic shifting of transient forces that impose themselves on our lives.
The implications are obvious on many levels. For one thing our “normal” paradigm of cause-and-effect must be questioned and perhaps even rejected as being too simplistic… this information suggests that it may not matter who is “controlling” the architectural rigging of our economic model. The ebb and flow of these “built-in” cycles are going to impose themselves on our lives and we ignore them at our own peril. Obviously there is an intelligence at work in the universe and our lives that has its own order… an order we must learn to acknowledge and understand.”
However, the following comment by Aengus Fogarty gives me pause: “The general comment that in nature many things (most things) occcur in cycles is insufficiently connected to the stock market to be convincing rationale for the timing cycle approach. The hits and misses of particular low and how points for buy and selling of stocks was not clearly elucidated by reference to overall results over a selected time period. The relative significant effect of “other” variables (other than timing cycles) on the results was also not made clear.”
Finally, I think this comment by “Bill” shows insight, and what is necessary for the next presentation: “I also thought the presentaion would have been more authentic if you had included a list of all the forecasts from a certain period, with the results. I am sure that there would have been some mistakes, it would have been useful to see them. If everything was 100% perfect, I would not have believed it. Also the exact text from Barron’s would have been helpful. If the model is a good as advertised, then the people at the non-profit should be investing as opposed to selling the model.
Basically I need more texture. If I don’t see any warts, then I’m doubtful.”
I appreciate the background that was presented today, and look forward to the practical application.
Thank you.
Having never played or even attempting anything having to do with any type of investing, I learned a great deal. I want to thank you for all information I can gain, oh! I did tape the information and will be studying it. Again I want to thank you and am awaiting the second part. Joe.
Martin, I’ve followed you and your dad’s advice for years and appreciate your conservatism. If I remember right you and your dad called the collapse of the WPPS bonds far ahead of their demise.
Would you please ask Mr. Mogey what they found was wrong with their market forecast early last fall with the inverted cyclical top and the Foundation’s statement ‘How could we have been so wrong’. I appreciated their candor. As someone once said, ‘every time I find the key to the market someone changes the lock’. Can’t wait for part 2.
The meeting was excellent! We’re so looking forward to next week.
Thank you for a job well done!
Thank you for the great program! It will be interesting to see how it plays out in real life. Is part two going into more specifics? Are you going to write a book that will cover more of the details and background that can be studied or is the timing information going to be used through your company and investing advisory service? Thanks again…Jim
I’m new to your services and have just finished reading your book. Today’s session was very insightful and thought provoking. These are very turbulant times and the cycles appear to be a very good method for navigating through these times. I have had substantial losses in the sub-prime mortgage debacle. I would be very curious to see the short-term, medium-term, and long-term outlooks for real estate.
Are California municipal bonds safe to keep? Are they safe to keep in this crisis? How about other state munis? You mention stocks but I would like to hear about treasury bonds and municipal bonds also in the cycles.
I loved the session today, and am looking forward to webcast 2 on the 30th.
Thank you for all your wonderful and helpful information.
Martin,
Very good presentation! Richard Mogey mentioned the perfect storm several times during the presentation without explanation. What was he talking about.
David
i am very interested in what Richard talked about cycles of past and how to apply to commodites grains metals. will they go down also, how far? IN 2012 2013?
wow!
This session provided a sense of “empowerment” to the individual regardless of one’s background..the gift of hope and at the same time the diming of the dreaded that lives in all our breasts. thank you
Martin et al,
Thanks for the informative outline of this work on cycles, particularly economic and market behavior. It ties in with the information I receive from Martha Stokes, CMT, at TechniTrader.com who recently did her thesis on variations of cyclical market behavior.
Your focus on general market work as well as individual stocks is helpful as is your content on failures with this analysis. Please comment on the general methods used to perform these analyses: smoothing and FFT decomposition, curve fitting with trigonometic decomposition, trial and error, etc.
Again thanks for the presentation.
Very interesting data. All new to me. Thanks.
Very interesting data. Was not aware of the existance of this information. Thanks.
Having studied W.D. Gann’s squaring of price and time and utilizing the work of the Foundation from 1983, I had to close a precious metal corporation knowing that the metals were going to bottom in 2001/2002 based on cycles. On the 30th anniversary of mastercard, the stock market peaked in 1999/2000 January;and silver had a low based on a 30/60/51/2 year cycle. Human nature and divine laws seem to hold the markets within boundaries. The software that was available in the mid 80’s was very useful. I trust ya’ll connecting will be beneficial for us who can’t devote the time and effort. Thanks for the great work.
Dean Bergquist
Austin, TEXAS
I always felt as an investor you picked a market and stock and held it for the long term. Hopefully picking more winners than losers. Using cycle theory you now can also make money by changing your position based on highs and lows created by the inherent cycle in markets and stocks.
I found the first presentation fascinating and well worth the time spent. I was also surprised to learn the experts agree with what I feel is about to happen. I just did not know that the decline was going to be stretched out over the next 2-3 years. Brilliant move on the part of Weiss Research.
Thank you very much for enlightening me on the cyclical trends! This information is invaluable, and I can’t wait to piece it together with Part two next week!
I would like to be able to examine the slides more carefully. I did not see the cyclical behavior that was suggested. I could not listen and analyze the slides at the same time. It would be helpful if we could download all the slides before the video and have them to inspect afterwards.
One advisor said we should sell any paper we have in California as it is going to default and its rating has gone to junk status. This makes me wonder about how many other states are likely to fail since I have a considerable sum in a tax exempt bond fund.
Also, this webcast showed a likelihood that the market would rise some into August, then head south for . . . perhaps till the next presidential election ends?! Tells me something about how that election may turn out, but makes me wonder about buying in the market too soon. Will the data that you have gathered be used to provide us with information in upcoming newsletters to help us sort this out?
Thank you for looking for ways that can help me and others invest wisely in an ever changing economy with many risks of which we are often unaware, such as underlying trends and cycles, and where the well-being of many loved ones are at stake.
I would be interested in hearing why you and your associates believe that these recurring cycles take place on such a regular basis.
Keep up the great, independent work.
Malcolm
With that kind of information, options could be used to make a fortune.
Thanks and regards,
Before I just invested in the stocks and funds in the dark. Now I can follow you because I think you are the road and you are the light that will guide me to success.
It was an eye opener and very useful presentation. Please accept my heartfelt gratitude for it. I try to do short term trading in the gold market. So, on your next presentation, if you could show us some readings on the short term, medium term and long term gold market, I am sure it will help thousands of others as well.
Just one more thing. I shall be grateful if you can show some concrete step by step method to take a market and find its different cycles and make forecasts. I would like to know a way to judge whether a market has useful cycles or not. For example, you guys discussed in your presentation, that all stocks are not cyclical. However, even when a stock has cycles, we can see that the cycles are never perfectly aligned. My question is, how do you differentiate between a workable but imperfect cycle and something that has no profitable cyclical properties. I hope I shall see some insight on this.
Thanks and regards,
kazi
Martin, as usual the video today was informative. Thank you so much for presenting these instructional videos that are so helpful.
Historical “cycles” are interesting. As the program progressed, however, I was compelled to compare the circumstances that existed just prior to the first great depression and the current scenario. I think circumstances are quite different now.
I’ve learned in an e-mail from another newsletter that a government “team” are employing tactics termed “plunge protection” tactics. Reportedly, this “team” uses the assets behind the U.S. Treasury to rig the prices of commodities and stocks. This “team” was not in place prior to the first “great depression.” It is comprised of the Fed Chairman, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the heads of the SEC and the Commodity Futures Trading Association. “It works closely with all the US exchanges and Wall St. banks, including the largest derivative risk holders Citibank and JP Morgan Chase.” This Working Group on Financial Markets was created by Executive Order 12631 signed by President R. Reagan on March 18, 1988. This is a different market than that of the ’30’s. I rather doubt it will ever be the same as it was prior to this financial meltdown. We’re definitely just a part of a “global economy” now, with the prospect of a “global” currency on the horizon that will usher in the dollar’s demise. Prophecy is being fulfilled before our eyes – in our lifetime. These are extraordinary times!
I found this very interesting. It looks like it could help make more accurate timing moves to buy and sell.
Great presentation. I tried to take decent notes as well to refer to later. With much gratitude for all the ongoing tutoring. I need all the help I can get.
I was vey impressed with the program, especially the scope and extent of the research. I am definately going to watch it again and look forward to Part Two. Thank you all for the time, effort and money that you expended bringing this program to investors. I will, if I may ask some questions after Part Two.
Thank you again.
It was very intresting and informative.
Your charts were excellent.
Richard is a lucid, clear, and unhesitating speaker.
His unasssuming manner give an impression of knowledge and trustworthiness.
The practical applications were excellently brought out.
ALEX
I learned a lot. Thank you very much.
Thank you for an enlightening presentation of the cyclical nature of the markets and the GDP. Most of this was new to me. Typically, as I learn something new that may promise continuing monetary rewards I’m a little dubious. Here are a couple of my thoughts regarding this cyclical process.
1. I’ve done a fair amount of reading and, from the presentation, I gather that this information was “buried” and largely unnknown. Is this true? Why haven’t others in the industry recommended this cyclical approach.
2. It was stated that the depression of the 30’s was followed by a great rise in the economy which was preducted by the institute. Yet, in the mid 30’s no one could really have predicted the onset of WW II and the enormous rise in war production and hence the economy. Could the prediction of an up cycle have possibly forseen the events or is the cycle removed from events and simply runs like clockwork such as astronomical (cosmic) births and deaths?
Looking forward to part II.
I was very impressed w/ the knowledge each of you bring to investing. I am looking forward to part II. It makes so much sense with everything I am reading lately. A great presentation and discussion.
Very fascinating discussion. Thanks, Martin and Larry!
Looking forward to next week.
Hello Dr. Weiss,
The presentation today had useful information. I plan on viewing part II to understand more.
I appreciate the panel’s honesty when you said it is not a guaranteed predictor in all situations. There were parts of the superimposed graphs on the actual data that showed good correlations. There were other parts that showed modest correlations and still others that showed little correlation. I’m assuming the parts that showed little correlation to be those times when the method fails. Could you go into more detail on where the superimposed curves show little correlation with the actual data and if this is indeed those times when the method fails? I’ve always been of the opinion that the markets cannot be completely described by an algorithm – there is always some element of chance in the markets. Nevertheless, the method does seem to offer a huge advantage to investors.
Hi Martin and Co.
Congratulations to you and your team especially the The Foundation for the Study of Cycles and their studies.
The presentation was nice and I am impressed by the cycles and the predictions. The problems mentioned about peaks not coinciding exactly and the possibility of cashing out too early needs to be addressed if investors have to be satisfied. The problems of cycle inversion also needs to be addressed. I guess we can apply our normal trend following methods of Moving averages/trend lines to solve those problems as presented by Larry.
I think the most important advantage we get in our trading is the psychological preparedness to anticipate a turning point and not to listen to the popular sentiments during the turning points. We hope not to miss the turning points in future.
I would like to see the following topics covered in Part 2:
1. The prediction of doomsday in 2012 was startling and I want to know how and what we should do to survive and prosper during that “Perfect storm”. I hope you shall spend more time on this scenario in Part 2 and inform us about the strategies to adopt.
2. Does the impending collapse of the US dollar mean a surge in commodity prices? When is that scenario likely to play out? I am observing that Gold is undergoing a consolidation right now.
My queries on timing are given below:
3. Is it possible to predict the turning points a few weeks in advance?
4. Is it possible to apply these cycles to emerging economies like China or India and their individual stocks?
5. Will you teach us how we can do it ourselves? What are the resources needed?
6. Is there an alternate scenario? Like “What if the cycles predictions do not come true?” Will we miss some wealth building opportunities? When do we come to know that the cycles predictions have not come true and an alternate scenario is playing out?
7. Is it possible that emerging economies may decouple from US economy? Can we predict that with the help of cycles? Is there a safe haven asset or economy to park our funds during the “Perfect Storm?”
Finally I hope the fees will be affordable to all of us. Please remember that currency equivalents in countries outside USA make your offers expensive although they may appear reasonable to Americans. I understand that The Foundation for the Study of Cycles is a non-profit making organization and I wish that you permit their knowledge to be used by us at a reasonable price.
I appreciate your efforts and congratulate you in bringing the cycles concept into our trading/investing. I also appreciate your analysis and fore-warnings of future events which have unfolded in front of us.
Mohan Turaga
The web event was dynamite, Martin. You three (and all the rest who put it together) did a wonderful job of presenting the material in less than an hour. I think it’s good stuff. Larry’s been using it and telling us about it recently in RWR, so I’m really glad you’re behind it and that you had Richard Mogey on. I trust that Part II will fill in some blanks. I’d like to know that you, Mike, and Nilus will be using cycles research when you make subscriber recos; and Bryan, too, for that matter. There will be no shortage of examples for illustration, I’m sure; but since you asked, I’d like to hear you dissect the cyclical pictures for SRS. Many thanks.
I enjoyed the presentation. I am not a technial investor. I use Safe Money as my guide and so I hope this makes you more accurate on when to get in and out of your recommendations.
Very interesting tutorial – thank you so much for providing this information to me. I’m just an individual concerned about our current financial mess and want to make safe decisions.
Thank you, Martin – another informative piece that certainly brings another dimension to an investment decision.
The charts appeared to run in 30-year (bottom to bottom, peak to peak) cycles, or 15 year (bottom to peak) cycles. The discussion focused on 20 year cycles. I realize the cycle time is not exact or exactly repeated, but the tolerance between the chart and the discussion is approximately +- 10 (peak to peak) or 5 (peak to bottom) years, or 50 to 35%. That seems like a large spread. Am I missing something?
I am looking forward to part 2, and hope you make both parts available for more than 48 hours in the future. Out of town committments, away from computers, makes it difficult to meet the scheduled times, and reruns would be a great way to catch what was missed the first time.
SOLVING THE TIMING MYTERY was excellent. It had never occurred to me that you could get the timing right by studying historic as well as current cycles to get the big picture. It would seem that adding the research team to your investment firm
and making the results of that research available to your investors would be a huge step forward. It would provide invaluable insight into forecasts, recom-
mendations, and take a great deal of the mystery out of timing. Thank you for
the super presentation today. I look forward to Part 2 on Tuesday. Melba
Totally fascinating. Question: is all the finagglin, the downright corruption, the determined misinformation factored in? Or is it not relavant in the bigger picture ?
Dr:
I realize that 53 minutes is not much time to cram the info that Larry & Mr Mogey
massaged into that time frame, but as a “skeptic” I think you could’ve done a better
job. I’m wondering if you’ll be selling something because of a couple of ‘timing’
inferrences made during the webinar. I am very happy for Weiss Research (umbrella)
that the Foundation for the Study of Cycles & your co’s have joined because of the
depth/service to be realized, but as Larry has said, he’s used this info for 30 years
as an adjunct to his market studies. I’ll be disappointed if I don’t see/comprehend
MY USAGE and delve more pointedly into the “error” methodology and how it is used.
Example: has this info been used by MONEY & MARKETS, SAFE MONEY, and
Weiss Wealth Management w/examples of gains/losses. Thank you for getting my
gray cells to fire!
Thanks for the thought-provoking presentation, Part I. I am looking forward to Part II. However, one thing that I have learned over the last several months of reading a variety of email newsletters and watching videos is that there will undoubtedly be some sort of offer in order to move forward. Yours are no exception. More power to you; it’s a business. However, these are always offers, from my perspective, for the rich to get richer—out of my league. Reminds me of G.W.’s tax cut for the wealthy. I do, however, get something out of your “infomercials.” Thanks again.
Sir!
I enjoyed your webinar tremendously. It struck a chord, the cycles. Someone told me years ago about them. I’ve never been in a position to use them, maybe even now. I retired about 15 months ago with just social security (well, okay, a CD and what was left of a Roth IRA). I look forward to part II next Monday!
Best wishes and regards,
George Mulvaney
I want to preserve my wealth, hopefully with some income, rather than trade stocks frequently with more wins than losses. So I need cycle analysis to help with timing stocks as a whole (S&P, etc.), and the dollar and gold, etc., to avoid the coming “storm” forecast in Part I, let alone to profit from it. Please take a wealth preservation approach rather than a trading profits approach. For example, what do cycles suggest for interest rates, the dollar, and gold between now and 2015? I’m glad you’re getting into cycle analysis.
I enjoyed the webinar today and am looking forward to next week’s part 2. I used to be able to record the various events for review and am disappointed that the most recent ones have apparantly been copy protected or have drm protection. I know that they are available for a time online, but I find it much easier to record the material and review it when I have the time. Some of them I have reviewed 4 or 5 times over a period of weeks and I would like very much to be able to do that again.
You and your staff are to be commended for the service you provide. thanks again.
Martin, Thanks for the briefing. It was very informative as to how so many players (big players) are able to walk away with huge wins so often. Looking forward to more.
Don
In early 1970’s had a close friend who was president of the Foundation for the Study of Recurring Cycles based in Pittsburgh. They were doing a lot of work to be able to time the market and I am sure they have made great strides since then to be more “predicative”. However, it still gets down to the the old story of being able to follow through and stay with your plan… even when it comes to cycles. It will be interesting to see what next week’s offering is about, and how cycles can help trading. What I got today, is that except for brief up period… we should all be buying long term puts! Regards. Cal
everthing you covered was excellent ! I was very impressed with larry edelson’s presentation.
Dear Dr. Weiss, I appreciate so much that you have invited me to your video sessions. And now I congratulate you for being able to use the Foundation’s records to help us see history in action. I knew that this knowledge had to be somewhere and now you have succeeded in sharing it with all of us. I need to listen to today’s program one more time and take some notes!!! Keep up the good work. I applaud you for your effort in making this a better world. Paula Adkins
I liked it. The work on cycles, based as it is on empirically verifiable research, adds a level of confidence to my investment strategy. I am looking forward to hearing more specifics about the markets next week.
I joined the FSC three years ago and have been using Techsignal to analyze stock data. It will be interesting to see what price you place on access to the FSC timing data. This is the second presentation on the use of Cycles in determining the timing of the market I have seen this week. The other one was at Optionetics OASIS conference in San Jose on Saturday, and Gann’s “Time by Degrees”.
A very interesting presentation. How can we apply it to our every day trades?
Bert
Timing always has been, and always will be, the most important part of entry and exit strategyand so important to private investors. Well done!
Hi Martin, Was interesting however is this relevant to sharemarkets outside of America?- l am in Australia. Can the cycles be adopted by anyone or is the info only going to assist those in the US.
Thanks
Martin,
Thank you – you’ve re-ignited my interest in cycles for timing the market. I had read a fair amount about cycles in the past (i.e. about the work of Nikolai Kondretiev, Edward Dewey, Jim Sloman) and even tried to follow the methods shown in the book called “The Delta Phenomenon” by Welles Wider but without much success – probably because there wasn’t sufficient details for me to understand and apply it properly.
However, I still do believe in cycles – I only have to look at nature (e.g. seasons, day & night, women’s monthly periods) and the economy (e.g. business cycles, presidential term cycles) to know that they do exist – but I need much better tools and training to apply them to the stockmarket. As I’m nearing retirement and my portfolio has taken a battering over the last year, this service needs to be at a low enough price for me to afford it as a small private investor. It would also be very useful if you could cover the UK stockmarket and commodities (inclu. precious metals).
I’d like to thank both you and Larry to bringing this timing tool to our attention and for continuing to serve the needs of the small private investor (who in my opinion has been mostly neglected or damaged by other financial advisers). I’m really looking forward to your session next Tuesday.
Best wishes
Jas
Hi Martin
Many thanks. Very informative and very interesting – can’t wait for part 2.
Cheers
Chris
Good meeting; be interested with overlay with overbought / oversold market and sectors.
Martin,
What a great presentation! Extremely interesting and not complicated to follow. I found Mr. Mogey to be extremely interesting. For suggestions for next week, I’d like to see what the cycles for the Dow, gold/silver, currencies, commodities as well as some of the other major stock markets(shanghai, etc) look like.
Thanks!
Mark
Will you use this tool with the Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio?
Thanks
Kindly keep this video up as long as possible; could not view the whole video this morning; had to go to work. Very interesting; have followed Richard Mogey several years.
Mike
Martin, Larry, and Richard-
What a wonderful presentation! I fully believe (and it is my experience) that there are cycles to life both from a macro and micro view. To be able to relate this to investments and financial cycles is absolutely incredible! Unfortunatley, I cannot log on to the presentation from work next Tuesday, but hope you will make it available for later viewing. Please keep up the fabulous work – you are a Godsend. I am an individual investor, but assets are too small for your managed services. But my assets are big enough to have investable cash. Hopefully, through your guidance, I will reach that loftier status and be able to take advantage of more of your services!
Thank you very much, Martin, for inviting this comment and for the splendid work you do. Your guest said he disagreed with you in that whereas he foresees a downward movement in the stock market but a rally after that until the end of this year. However, he did not tell us when the foresees he downward move ending and the short-term rally commencing, which is a potentially valuable missing piece of data.
The topic was facinating and, even though I live in The Netherlands, it gives very
interesting possibilities.
Best Regards,
Jos
Dear Martin, Larry & Richard,
Many thanks for presenting us this wonderful study of cycles and how they can be applied to timing trades in the financial markets. I am a big advocate of the Elliott Wave Principal and believe the application of cycles used in conjunction would add greater weight & conviction in determining terminal junctures of long & short trends and whether a trend in force is the real deal or simply a countertrend correction.
I would like to see Claus Vogt and Bryan Rich invited to join in the part 2 session. From what I gathered stock markets are heading higher over the coming months which would present strains for Claus’s current investment stance in inverse ETF’s in his Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio.
Bryan Rich discussed a seven year Dollar cycle in his 5/23 Money and Markets column under the heading ‘Dollar’s Demise Greatly Exagerated’. Bryan believes the next dollar cycle is calling for strength in a multi-year bull market. However Richard Mogey’s cycle work forecasts the dollar’s current cycle is calling for a full twelve year decline from it’s peak in mid 2001. The 7 year dollar cycles discussed by Bryan are as clear as a bell, so I am unable to grasp how Mr Mogey’s 12 year dollar decline forecast fits into that picture.
Robert Prechter is also calling for a dollar bull market, or at least a significant large correction based on deflationary fundamental analysis supported by the Elliott wave count and form. From his latest monthly Elliott Wave Theorist, Prechter writes ‘The next bull market in the dollar should be a powerhouse. The dollar will rise not because it is healthy but because it is the sickest currency in the world. When this debt implodes to worthlessness, remaining dollars will go up in value. The key is to be in dollars that survive, which is the whole message of (his book) ‘Conquer the Crash’.
Martin, I am sure you can relate to Prechter’s forecast in the context of the coming massive deflation that you yourself are forecasting, and the huge credit destruction with which it will entail. The Federal Reserve’s money printing efforts are merely a drop in the ocean to the tide of debt that is yet to implode. Remaining dollars will explode in value not contract as Richard Mogey’s cycles model seems to suggest. This is an extremely important topic because one needs to be certain they are adopting the correct investment stance when in comes to the dollar’s primary trend. I would greatly appreciate your further analysis and thoughts on this matter.
Best regards,
MM
very interesting. Larry had mentioned this work a few weeks back and the website/costs seemed prohibitive. I am an MCP member and hope we will be able to take advantage of this knowledge through Claus at no extra cost and I am wary of additional costs at this stage, although I would obviously be delighted to be on the winning team when the chickens come home to roost. It does feel like a very long sales pitch to me but always happy to be pleasantly surprised.
Too staged and too long. The gist of the entire presentation could have been done in 10 minutes or less. I got bored during the presentation and multi-tasked out to the Dewey group’s web site. I know that this was an infomercial–which is understandable–but I didn’t want to spend so much time listening to a thinly-veiled sales pitch.
I left the webcast after 15 minutes because it became much too tedious and I felt my time would literally be more productive spent elsewhere.
That said, thanks for the opportunity to hear the bit that I did.
Martin: I am 80 and have a Phd. but have never heard a more coherent, helpful dialogue on money and investing in my life. I’m finally excited and much more confident about the rest of my retirement, thanks to you. Bob Bermudes
As a subsriber to your contrarian portfolio, how will the “cycle” information be integrated into Claus’s research and recommendations?
i enjoyed your presentation yesterday and look forward to part 2.
how do you plan on using the timing cycles, on our own or incorporated in your recos?
I respect your opinions and observations in most of your notices and emails, however why it took an hour to tell us about a cycle is beyond me.
Far too much repitition of the same facts.
I suggest you keep it moving with some new or important key points or you may lose some viewers. And viewers turn into customers.
My opinion only.
Part 2 will have to substantiate your introductory claims in Part 1 of practicable worth.
Others long before you have already worked extensively with cyclical aspects in market progress. The difficulty is that actual progress is rhythmical, not cyclical; so patterns rhyme which seductively bears ir-regularity. Hence for trading purposes, mere cycle analysis has thus far not succeeded in the overall.
On your behalf I’ll watch open-minded.
Regards,
G
Thank you so much for clearly presenting the information on the business cycles in an understandable way. The presentation was very balanced; I am looking forward to your next presentation. I would like to see more details about where we are now in the current cycle.
Martin, your guest never explained what he meant by “THE PERFECT STORM” which he expects to see by 2012/13 ?? Are we heading for A Depression…..Hyperinflation….Currency Collapse…Stock Market Collapse ??
I would like to see more ‘Dots’ connected in the discussion. Hopefully Session Two will have more details. Thanks. Ben.
P.S. ETFs remains intriguing and sounds too good to be true ! I need to know how it works and.. we hear of Inverse ETFs and Leverage Inverse ETFs ..WOW !! WOW !! ???
Hi Martin.
Interesting and not complicated to follow.
I think you need to be very careful here, because you could lose tremendous credibility. Supply and demand, social change, expanding population growth, political change, constant change in generational control are some of the few elements which create these cyclical events. I believe that up to now you have honed in on many factors which include the irresponsible lending of major institutions which has sent the world economy into a downward spiral and which will get much worse before it gets better. I do seriously believe most of your predictions is backed by a solid understanding of actual events now taking place. There are obviously many potential types of cycles and when some of them converge we see real problems emerge. Cycles as a pure investment tool without market data behind it makes me very nervous. Yes history repeats itself because people and societies make the same mistakes over and over again. I think your analysis of the great depression and what we are seeing now is quite good and we need to heed your warnings. Cycles for cycles sake could be a risky investment tool. I like cause to effect analysis.
Martin, I would like you and the other gentlemen, using their cyclic as well as other data resources mentioned to extrapolate the cycle(s) for the next few years. Perhaps out to 2030 to cover a 20 year period. You all presented very persuading data to support the cyclic theory presented, but most of the data is reflective of past cycles and has te benefit of hindsight. Plus, the conclusions made by the other gentlemen tended to be global as opposed to discrete in nature. Clearly one must have a comprehensive set of data if one is going to use the data to make any credible extrapolation of future events, strategies, results, performance, etc., and that is why I would like to see you and the other gentlemen’s extrapolation for the rest of 2009, 2010 through 2015 and perhaps through 2030 which again would cover 20 years. I would also like you to spend more time discussing what your and the other gentlemen’s “hypothetical” investing strategies would be based on the extrapolations for rest of 2009 through 2030. Thank you!!
WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THE OVERALL TRENDS ARE FOR GOLD AND THE STOCK MARKET. THE INFO SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD WAY TO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE LONG RUN.
Thank you for the presentation. Interesting how nature presents these cycles and they are there to be discovered.
To make the information most beneficial, it would be truly great to get a copy of the slides and a transcript of the telecasts so that when we most need the information presented, in two weeks or two month, that we have the it at our disposal.
Thank You
Roger Schroeder
Martin, I thought the show was just great, and I can’t wait to hear the second pard..
It sounds just to good to be true..
As a Ph.D. physicist I am well familiar with cyclical analysis. I would like to see, however, more technical details of its application to the stock market, particularly to indexes and sectors. This presentation would not be complete without an honest presentation of deviations, errors, missed predictions, etc. It is nice to see a few successful examples, but if I don’t know the statistical comparison to unsuccessful predictions, I didn’t learn anything.
Some people like to predict whether a new born baby will be a boy or a girl. Half of those predictions are right. Does it mean anything? If you can show (not just claim) that 90% of the predictions are right, then it is statistically significant.
I think part 1 was helpful as far as it went. The essential part will be part 2 where more precis guidance can be given.
I enjoyed the briefing because it showed history and the charts.
Thanks Martin and congratulations on your deal with the Foundation, and going public with the market cycles paradigm(s). I thought you guy were masterly in your portraits of the short/medium term prospects for the US, but what about Europe and the BRICs? (In the 1980s I worked with various think-tanks on “the scientific futures for humanity” and spotted some good apps in grain futures trading using the sunspot cycle, also in copper using the Kondratieff long-wave and Schumpeter cycles, and even telexed a “bad-hunch” warning to a big client three weeks before the 1987 “crash”).
Next Wednesday???? I thought Part 2 was scheduled for Tuesday June 30 at noon. I don’y want to miss it, please clarify. Thank you
The info was so valuable and the presentation well done.
Outside of Larry’s recent newsletter on the different cycles, this was just an introduction for me. It makes sense. Looking back I can recognize the ups and downs of the past. I can also see how this method could be helpful in forecasting upcoming trends and will allow the novice investor to know what to expect. I look forward to the second presentation.
From a UK fan!! Excellent presentation, your research reminds me of a book titled ‘The Downwave’ published many years ago that gave me the insight to avoid this economic maelstrom; and also the work done by WD Gann who published a book ‘45 Years on Wall Street’. I only wish I was closer to the US economy and wonder if you do any work on the European or UK stockmarkets.
Best wishes John Munro
The information you provided was priceless and comforting. I have gained so much knowledge since I came on board! Thanks for being here! Michael Weeber
Thanks to all three of you for sharing this, it was informative, interesting and simple. How amazing, I can’t wait to start looking over all the Foundation information!! Next week, (if you have gotten to my entry, it looks like 5,000,000 are ahead of me, by then, the reponse looks tremendous!) as someone who is just beginning research into investments, I would love to see where to go next and how to start using this.
Your video was awesome.
I definetely would incorporate The Foundation’s cyclical analysis in my investment timing decisions.
The most pressing questions about stock market timing and cyclical timing signals would be: When do I buy and sell currency pair $-Euro? When do I buy and sell agri futures? When do I buy and sell oil futures?
While the presentation was interesting, how does this cycle timing procedure assist someone with VERY limited resources who doesn’t have time to deal with recommendations on a frequent basis? In other words, what does one do if they can’t afford to risk any investment on a timing recommendation which may or may not provide short term additional income or assure growth which would provide needed additional income in the short term?
Fascinating, and I’m looking forward to the next edition. However, we all have a friend who bets on the horses, and only ever tells us about his winners – we NEVER hear about the losers…at the next presentation, you need to show us major calls the foundation got plain WRONG! It was mentioned, but only really in passing…let’s have more detail, please. We need to be objective about this.
Dr. Weiss, thank you so much for sharing this information with us. I was aware of market cycles before this, but could not see how it could be applied to timing specific stocks. No doubt, I’d be in a lot better financial shape had I known about the foundation years ago …looking forward to Part Two.
I found the information very interesting and fascinating. My fear of course is that you have monoplised the information from a non-profit foundation and will make it too expensive for the average investor.
The presentation on Monday was excellent. Could you ask Richard Mogey to explain how cycle theory tells him that the dollar will survive? Looking forward to Part Two. Thanks for all your help during this dificult time.
Absolutely amazing! To have all this knowledge and experience “tucked away” in a research facility is a real shame. Make this available to all investors. If they choose not to use it then they can suffer the consequences. Knowledge is power!
I was very impressed with the program. I was also especially impressed with Larry Edeleson’s knowledge and experience with timing and his use of some of the timing cycles. I am looking forward to Part 11. I have been a subscriber to the Safe Money Report since the early 80s. and I have found you to be right so many times on your political and financial predictions.
I have been retired for 15 years and I am 78 years old. I have always been quite conservative on my investments and since 2000 I have been essentially out of the market, using treasury Money Market funds through a mutual fund. Up until this recent calamity, I was doing well with money market funds as a supplement to my fixed income. However, now I might as well take all the money out and put it a tin can. What am I supposed to do with 0.01% on my money, especially with the dollar sinking and hyper inflation around the corner?
How will your timing program help fixed income, elderly persons invest on a conservative basis. I choose to wait and see how the investing system would go, but, I would have to have some expert advice as to how to proceed. There are Financial News Letters galore, but I have little confidence with most of them. Larry seems to have a good handle on investments in general. Perhaps I will subscribe to his news letter.
What I would like to know is how your timing system would help older, retired, fixed income persons participate using money market funds that are now providing virtually zero income for the foreseeable future.
Sincerely,
Robert Barrie
The teaser consisting of part one served to peak my interest. Thank You!
I will hope that in the context of Part 2 an offering of software tools in the form of a program where one can plug in items in ones portfolio to compare to the 20 year, 40 year and 60 year cycles will be helpful.
I have been getting contradicting advice from my advisors, I am a retired engineer not a financial person, but wanting to investigate the cycle theory on my own. Some say this or that but have not shown me the basis for their position. Therefore having direction to available software will be most appreciated.
I thought the presentation was very interesting and exciting. As you know, we must all have some cyncism in our investments, so a question I have is.. why have we not heard of this organization before( even though Larry has)especially since they seem to have been quite accurate in their research?
i learned more today then i have in a long time
After watching the first presentation and looking at several other stock market indicators that shows that the market is definitely headed lower, I sold several of my stocks to prevent any further losses.
The presentation was excellent and thank you for allowing me to watch it.
Which are the best sectors to invest in and pinpointing entry and exit levels for indivudual stocks is of great interest.
So let me get this straight. Their work cannot predict magnitude of a move and it sometimes predicts theopposite of what happens? that doesn’t sound like a money-maker to me.
Excellent and informative presentation.
My only disappointment is that you’re not leaving it up through this coming weekend so that we can review it one more time before Tuesday’s on-line briefing.
Before last Friday,s presentation I always thought that actually timing the market was not really possible on a continuing basis and that if it worked once the probability of this working twice in a row would be pure luck. What a surprise this was–I literally can’t wait for the second briefing.
Thank you for the invitation.
I’ve listened..and invested about 30M based on you and your colleagues advise and am currently sitting on a 17% loss. I don’t have any idea whether to hold and hope or take my medicine and get out.
Really enjoyed the vid. The info will help when I get back in the market.
Thanks
Really enjoyed the video. The information will really help when I get back into the market.
Thanks
Today’s online briefing was very enlightening. If the Foundation for the study of cycles is as accurate as it was portrayed, this will be a very helpful tool in our efforts to time the market.
It will be exciting to see what cycles the foundation sees in the near future as well as the months and years ahead!
Extremely interesting presentation. I’m a bit unclear, though, as to whether these stats apply to the global picture or are different in regards to different countries… I remember the analysis included the UK stock market grouped with the US stock market. Will all of the newsletters affiliated with the Weiss group be using these calculations in their recommendations? Looking forward to next week’s presentation.
Dear Martin,
I enjoyed the online briefing very much. Thank you. However, I have reservations.
About 5 years ago, I purchased a software “timing tool” for $4900 plus $500/year for the data feed. The tool offered Elliott Wave forecasting, which according to the marketing verbiage took guesswork out of market investing. In my experience this product was in fact an Elliott Wave fizzle. I never enjoyed a successful trade based on its timing signals. I am skeptical, but hopeful that your cycle work will be different.
I will be in attendance next week.
God Bless,
Cochetopa
I found part one very informative. I’m looking forward to part two!
I particularly appreciated the charts and graphs. Superimposing several cycles in the same chart was helpful. I would like to know how to access such research and charts myself.
I was not aware such economic cycles could be applied to millennia of history. Did biblical Joseph use such cycle understanding to interpret the Pharaoh’s dreams? I’ll have to reread Gibbon’s “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” with a new perspective.
Economics and politics are not the same thing! I’m looking forward to next week. Thank you from this octogenarian for the best information to preserve his meager amount of capital.
Enjoyed the first session and am looking forward to the next round. I should think the
acquisition of the Foundation’s material would be quite helpful. VAK
An excellent interview. I was amazed at the different cycle timing of specific stocks and market sectors. I am very anxious to view the next presentation.
Cheers, Anthony
Fabulous information. Please show the charts a wee bit longer on future webcasts as some are difficult to absorb in only a few seconds. Thanks for all the hard work on your part.
very interesting. Do you have something for a beginer $10,000 or less who has lost when getting involved with a broker and is not shure if they want to try anything, with anyone, and does not know how.
Dr. Weiss,
Thank you for Part One of Solving the Timing Mystery. Key questions for Part Two: (1) What products from the Foundation For The Study of Cycles are available, (2) What is the best way to apply these products to timing various market segments, (3) with regard to those instances where cycle analysis did not yield correct information, would the use of fractal analysis improve results, (4) how should the results of cycle analysis be combined with other technical indicators (i.e. Chaiken Money Flow, RSI, MACD) to yield the best result.
Dear Martin,
This is something I really need to help supplement my income and I am looking forward to using it.
Thank You, Paul Yoquelet
Very good presentation!
i have been interested in cyclic cycles in the market since reading the book, ‘The Profit Magic of Stock Transaction Timing” published in the early 1960s. (Can’t locate my copy now). Now I am a member of FSC which has done much better and more useful work.
But it sounds like Weiss is taking over our non-profit foundation so he can make a profit on all the work that has been done for seven decades. Say it isn’t so. Say the research will be available online for a small fee to cover actual reasonable expenses.
You mentioned the occasional reversal of predicted turns in price direction. HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? Once in ten? Once in a hundred?
For the next chapter I’m interested in the expected future for silver and gold. Thank you.
Dear Dr.Weiss,
Yes, It does appear that learning how to use the foundations cyclical analysis would be very useful in pointing out the potential turning points. I would like to learn more about cyclical analysis and how it can help me trade with greater Probability to the updise or downside.
I am not sure what your plans are, but times are tough. I would like to know how you intend to market this information and how the setup will work. Of course, Cost is of the utmost concern in these times.
How will this information be used by your subscribers? Will it come with any assistance or as a e-book or as a seperate service with its own website and acess?
I am interested, but with caution! I think the concept of how you will incorporate this into a resource for for members will be what I want to learn.
In the future it would be useful to consider sending a transcript of these Webinars to those that attend so that one can pay total attention without the need to take notes to refer back to later.
Thank you Dr, Weiss for your consideration.
Fascinating! I look forward to Part 2.
It would be very instructive to learn more about Richard Mogey’s reference to the impending “perfect storm”.
thank you for your follow-up. unfortunately i have not been able to view nor hear the webcast. when i signed in on tuesday (and yesterday’s link to replay) it took me to my media viewer and read “connecting to media” for a minute or so. then it said ready but gave me nothing but a dark screen.
i went through all the troubl-shooting steps to no avail. i had successfully viewed other webcasts so i was perplexed with the problems…
i really would love to view it and comment further but i notice time is running out and i am concerned i will totally miss it.
It was excellent. I can see that wartching the market as a whole is the best thing to do. As far as I can tell, I believe you have the best take on the market I have ever seen. I appreciate the information. It also inspired me to read your most recent book that I had not gotten around to read. I’m enjoying your book tremendously and hope to follow your advice in the near future. It is trully an eye opener. I am amazed how accurate you and your father have been in the past. I have every reason to believe you are on target again. Thanks a lot!
As I watched it, I was struck about how close he was to Robert Precter on cycles. I have had Prector’s newletter for many years (just like yours) Since we no longer can invest, I am still interested in it. We did well in the period 1970-90 in real estate and could have done better except for this Child of the Depression’s fears that a collapse had to come and could not figure when. Keep it up! Bruce Johnston
An exceptional session – I was busy taking notes and I look forward to the next session.
I THOUGHT THAT THE DISCUSSION WAS VERY INTERESTING AND I ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH. THE FIRST TIME THAT I WATCHED IT THERE WAS BACKGROUND MUSIC PLAYING WHICH SOMETIMES DROWNED OUT THE DISCUSSION AND IT WAS VERY DISTRACTING. THE NEXT DAY WHEN I WATCHED IT, THE MUSIC WAS GONE AND IT WAS QUITE A RELIEF TO BE ABLE TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, WITHOUT THE DISTRACTION.
REGARDS,
ALEX
Part 1 was most interesting and impressive that it’s quite accurate. One area not mentioned is the effect of market manipulation, e.g. the government’s Plunge Protection Team. So many times the market defies all logic and reason, going against fundamentals. Some analysts have said to throw out technical analysis since the market does not operate freely.
Thank you so much, Martin for your generosity regarding financial help in scary times. With regard to your next session on June 30th, would you please comment on the wisdom of keeping choice real estate in Canada, verses increasing a cash position now, to use in the market later. God bless you too!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge regarding “The Foundation For The Study Of Cycles”. I believe it will help me make better financial decisions in the future because it will give me an even broader scope of what the economy has, is, & will do in the future. Nothing is perfect, but, at least it will give me even more arsenal for determining what is happening in the short, medium, & long term so that I can make my own judgements as to where the economy may be heading.
I believe that having more tools in the box greatly increases your chances of making informed decisions. By having more information available, I can be more educated about any subject or situation.
What will happen in the future is meant to happen, whether it is good or evil, & no body or no thing will stop it. If something or somebody is evil, they will lose. Always has & always will. Longevity is dictated to by doing good things. Failure is dictated to by doing evil things. So, if the thoughts of another “good” nation overpower the thoughts of another “bad” nation, the overpowering thoughts will win. If people see something better somewhere else, they will gravitate towards that place. It is the law of attraction.
Government money comes from taxes, & whoever has the most taxes will rule the world. All great things will be brought forth by the stream of never-ending government revenue, which just happens to be another cycle in the never-ending quest for making mankind invincible in the coming destruction of intelligent life on Earth just like it did with the dinosaurs.
In part two, I would like it to be longer with more information. More information equals greater success. I felt like I was a child on Christmas Eve & having to go to bed & wait until the morning to open my presents. The suspense is killing me to have to wait to see & hear part two. Good marketing antics on the part of Weiss Research, you’ve grabbed my attention & it worked.
Once again, thank you very much.
P.S. You should have called it, “the Timing Secret”, taken from the huge, world-wide success of “the Secret”.
Martin:
Your video conference was both confirming of my research, where Bill Bonner and others illustrate the business cycle, which cannot be canceled or voted on. It just is. And one better pay attention because that’s reality. You conference was much more detailed and more current. Thank you very much
Dear Martin, Larry and Richard,
Thank you, THANK you, THANK YOU!!!
Your understanding of The Big Picture is such a blessing!
As a biblical scholar and teacher, I see great benefit in what you
are doing.
While growing through the experiences we are
now having, and adding the clarity of the research and data the
foundation has been gathering, we will confirm the testimony
of Scripture.
For those who are aware of God’s promise to turn the wealth
of the wicked over to the righteous, this is very big.
May we humbly pursue the right goals, with the right motives.
So be it!
Many Blessings!
Raylyn Terrell
Glad I found this site – I really think this is right on target. Keep up with the good work!. Alverta Oyer Patterson